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mikeflcn

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I have used Phyto and Derma and enjoyed them, now I am looking to stack with a third. I was think Havoc or P-plex or along those lines. Any recommendations of what would be a great product to compliment the Derma. PP would love to hear what you would recommend. After I will follw with Sustain Alpha



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Im 2 weeks into my ULTIMATE LEAN MUSCLE Stack from PP. (derma/phyto/cla/endoamp/toco8/alpha) and Lipoflame/RawMCC. Im using this stack oddly enough, to "cut". Im trying to do a body comp shift, keeping the weight CLOSE but dropping fat and saving/adding some LBM. My lifts have gone up slightly, and recovery is GREAT, sometimes I think its TOO good and that I need to lift more lol. MY only concern is that as I get into things another week or two, that my strength might slightly drop since my cals are cut SLIGHTLY, but protein is HIGH. I might be looking for something to add in for a little extra strength just to make sure my lifts dont suffer while cutting. The stack is DEF doing the job for me so far. Im def losing some fat and the scale is barely moving, but thats what Im going for!

Summer league basketball starts up for me in a couple weeks and if things keep going, I might reach my goals in time, if not basketball will sure torch the couple last lbs im trying to get rid of.

I might look for a little something else to save my strength but Im not sure what to go for since im not really BULKING UP, im more on the "cutting" side of things.

I guess we will see how things go, but Im getting some vains popping back out of my arms, I feel GREAT after taking lipoflame and applying Dermacrine!

GOOD STUFF, I might make a "half assed log" just to update some people on how things are going.

-Legacy
 
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Mikeflcn said:
I have used Phyto and Derma and enjoyed them, now I am looking to stack with a third. I was think Havoc or P-plex or along those lines. Any recommendations of what would be a great product to compliment the Derma. PP would love to hear what you would recommend. After I will follw with Sustain Alpha
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AndroGenerator will work synergistically with Dermacrine to increase natural testosterone levels while providing good gains in lean muscle mass and strength.

Omnibolic(O-Bol) will work syergistically with Phyto-Testosterone in order to facilitate a heightened anabolic state, leading to a drastically increase muscle mass, strength gain, and definition/vascularity.

You could also just run AndroGenerator/Phyto or Omni/Derma.
 
Mikeflcn said:
I have used Phyto and Derma and enjoyed them, now I am looking to stack with a third. I was think Havoc or P-plex or along those lines. Any recommendations of what would be a great product to compliment the Derma. PP would love to hear what you would recommend. After I will follw with Sustain Alpha
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Im not very familiar with the gains from those products, but I know that Dermacrine stacks very well with most all pro-hormone or pro-steroid type products. Epistane and Dermacrine has been a popular stack for solid lean gains.

The ingredients in Omnibolic look good too which would stack well with the above products.

-Pp
 
Mikeflcn said:
I have used Phyto and Derma and enjoyed them, now I am looking to stack with a third. I was think Havoc or P-plex or along those lines. Any recommendations of what would be a great product to compliment the Derma. PP would love to hear what you would recommend. After I will follw with Sustain Alpha
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use havoc with the phyto or derma, you wont be disappointed.
 
Primordial Performance said:
Im not very familiar with the gains from those products, but I know that Dermacrine stacks very well with most all pro-hormone or pro-steroid type products. Epistane and Dermacrine has been a popular stack for solid lean gains.

The ingredients in Omnibolic look good too which would stack well with the above products.

-Pp
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PP you took the words right out of my mouth bro. Epistane/havoc (which is the same thing almost) has been pretty populer on other boards. Also Omnibolic looks like a great stack with dermacrine.
 
needtogetaas said:
PP you took the words right out of my mouth bro. Epistane/havoc (which is the same thing almost) has been pretty populer on other boards. Also Omnibolic looks like a great stack with dermacrine.
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How about omnibolic, phyto test, dermacrine & sustaplex 325 :evil:
 
I am about a week and a half into the same PP stack. Strength and libido up a little. DJ or PP is it ok to take the phyto and cla at the same time or should they be at different times? I have been taking 4 mil each am and pm. I take the phyto then take the cla and eat something.
 
james629 said:
I am about a week and a half into the same PP stack. Strength and libido up a little. DJ or PP is it ok to take the phyto and cla at the same time or should they be at different times? I have been taking 4 mil each am and pm. I take the phyto then take the cla and eat something.
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Its ok to take them the same time, take them the same time ed.
 
james629 said:
I am about a week and a half into the same PP stack. Strength and libido up a little. DJ or PP is it ok to take the phyto and cla at the same time or should they be at different times? I have been taking 4 mil each am and pm. I take the phyto then take the cla and eat something.
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Yeah this is ok... Id take the Phyto first though to take advantage of the sublingual absorption. (fresh mouth absorbs better)

-Pp
 
will the Sustain alpha be sufficient for PCT (taking Havoc up to 40, Phyto, Dermacrine for 4 weeks)? I have other items I could use for PCT if necessary, but if Alpha is sufficient I will just stick with that, any thoughts?
 
Do not use prohormones, they will suppress you. If you want to increase T, check out UNLEASHED at the EF store. (Click below).
 
I DONT THINK PPs PRODUCTS ARE TYPICAL "PROHORMONES". WHAT IS SO DIFFERENT ABOUT UNLEASHED?





Nelson Montana said:
Do not use prohormones, they will suppress you. If you want to increase T, check out UNLEASHED at the EF store. (Click below).
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james629 said:
I DONT THINK PPs PRODUCTS ARE TYPICAL "PROHORMONES". WHAT IS SO DIFFERENT ABOUT UNLEASHED?
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I wasn't referring to PP's products. They aren't prohormones. What's so different about UNLEASHED? It works by lowering SHBG. No other product works like that and it works well with Dermacrine for PCT.
 
For PCT? I thought sustain was for pct. Would unleashed be something to run with sustain too or should that be ran with Dermicrine the firat 4 weeks of the PP stack?
 
james629 said:
For PCT? I thought sustain was for pct. Would unleashed be something to run with sustain too or should that be ran with Dermicrine the firat 4 weeks of the PP stack?
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You got it right bro. Dermacrine during the cycle, then Sustain Alpha afterwards for PCT. So yeah, if your only going to be on a 4 week cycle then Sustain would be enough for PCT.

I know Unleashed has been used successfully with Sustain Alpha before for PCT.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
You got it right bro. Dermacrine during the cycle, then Sustain Alpha afterwards for PCT. So yeah, if your only going to be on a 4 week cycle then Sustain would be enough for PCT.

I know Unleashed has been used successfully with Sustain Alpha before for PCT.

-Pp
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Is sustain alpha enough PCT for a Dermacrine/Havoc 4 week cycle, believe I have some other forms of PCt in the supplement cabinet if neccessary????
 
Mikeflcn said:
Is sustain alpha enough PCT for a Dermacrine/Havoc 4 week cycle, believe I have some other forms of PCt in the supplement cabinet if neccessary????
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Yes, it would be enough or a 4 week cycle, even if you were using AAS.

-Pp
 
PP...could you explain how Epistane/Havoc and Dermacrine compliment each other? Guess I am confused because have read that this is a decent stack, yet one is supposed to up test levels and the other can shut you down?
 
mikeflcn said:
PP...could you explain how Epistane/Havoc and Dermacrine compliment each other? Guess I am confused because have read that this is a decent stack, yet one is supposed to up test levels and the other can shut you down?
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They stack well because they are all pro-hormone products with synergistic anabolic/androgenic effects. And all of the above mentioned products will inhibit your natural T production too.

-Pp
 
mikeflcn said:
I have used Phyto and Derma and enjoyed them, now I am looking to stack with a third. I was think Havoc or P-plex or along those lines. Any recommendations of what would be a great product to compliment the Derma. PP would love to hear what you would recommend. After I will follw with Sustain Alpha
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I have heard a lot of good things about a derma/havoc stack. Follow up with a sustain alpha pct. http://www.primordialperformance.com/derm_sust_intro.cfm
LOve pp's shit. Pm me for discounts.
 
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