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Dermacrine gave me negative a effect,

StackedXXX

StackedXXX

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I used it after a nolva/clomid pct and it sent my libido backwards...I stopped and I'm thinking of running proviorn, universal's animal stack2 and some additional tongkat ali(stacke has some) for 3 weeks.
 
StackedXXX said:
I used it after a Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - /clomid PCT - post cycle therapy - and it sent my libido backwards...I stopped and I'm thinking of running proviorn, universal's animal stack2 and some additional tongkat ali(stacke has some) for 3 weeks.
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lmao this is your first post bro....nice
 
I beleive dermacrine works due to others on here, but not everything works for everyone anyways..So maybe it works for 99 ourt of 100 people. sorry your the one it didnt work for!! Im still going to use it.
 
If there's any credence to that post at all I'd attribute the loss of libido to the nolva or clomid which are dick killers for some guys.
 
I took "dermacrine Sustain" BY THE WAY; Well I'm going to stop taking it. When I first starting using Derma sustain, I wasn't fully recovered ,but almost there. Lets 's say in terms of test/libido/morning wood prior to gear I used to be 100, so after my pct and before the sustain i was 85, but I figure let me cement my pct with the derma sustain. So I've been on it for 6 days and I'm not improving, but rather its having a negative impact on me. i feel like I'm below 85, that for sure.

My pct prior to taking the sustain was: nolva(6 weeks), clomid(3 weeks), tribulus territris (2 weeks),TONGLAT ALI(3 weeks), and zma, extra zinc, multi and vit e, hard boiled eggs, i am currently taking.

By the way I don'it want to put down primordialperformance's product; just as it's been stated "NOT EVERYTHING WILL WORK FOR EVERYONE". I'm thinkin of running a test booster(animal stack2, proviron, and tongkat ali).
 
why did you follow nolv w/clomid? 6 weeks of nolv is more than enough--I would blame the clomid--supress the est long enough and the test will follow
 
If it didn't work for you or you don't feel it worked then don't use it. Different drugs have different effects on people, If you really want to know if it works or not eliminate the other 2 products and see if that works.......if not, then its not the stuff for you.
 
StackedXXX said:
My PCT - post cycle therapy I- prior to taking the sustain was: Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - (6 weeks), clomid(3 weeks), tribulus territris (2 weeks),TONGLAT ALI(3 weeks), and zma, extra zinc, multi and vit e, hard boiled eggs, i am currently taking.
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You're "taking" hard boiled eggs huh? Don't overdose bro! Classic :lmao:
 
ajfab88 said:
if derm sustain didnt work for you you could possibly be a female......check your crotch next time you shower and if theres a vagina there then thats the reason why it didnt work
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LMFAO
 
ajfab88 said:
if derm sustain didnt work for you you could possibly be a female......check your crotch next time you shower and if theres a vagina there then thats the reason why it didnt work
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lmao best post ever bro...I love it k to you.
 
ajfab88 said:
if derm sustain didnt work for you you could possibly be a female......check your crotch next time you shower and if theres a vagina there then thats the reason why it didnt work
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Even more classic, lol
:lmao: :spit: :lmao: :spit: :lmao: :spit:
 
StackedXXX said:
ok juice monkeys...laugh all you want..ill be laughing when ur hear failure...
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juice monkey? didnt u just come off of pct from a cycle? or was it a cycle of hard boiled eggs that you were on and not juice?
 
I don’t know what to think about this…

We got the exact same post on our forum yesterday. The guy says he only used Sustain for 6 days mixed in with about 9 other drugs and supplements, so I’m not sure how he can conclude that the Sustain is making his situation worse with so many variables.

-Pp
 
Hey im on 2500mg of test, about 2g deca, and about 3g tren ew, and uhhh I cant see my nuts, and derma is not helping

jk lol :P
 
Get used to it.
Anyone who successfully sells product here always get spammers/alters who create an account just to bash a product. This is possibly because the guy sells a competitive product.

bb.com is sometimes impossible for me to read because of the frequency of such attacks.

I don't think there is any genuine problem here

Primordial Performance said:
I don’t know what to think about this…

We got the exact same post on our forum yesterday. The guy says he only used Sustain for 6 days mixed in with about 9 other drugs and supplements, so I’m not sure how he can conclude that the Sustain is making his situation worse with so many variables.

-Pp
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N2, why'd you bomb the guy? so fucking what if derma didn't work for him. there's a zillion posts all over this board of guys saying that it's the best thing ever. One guy rails it (not everything works the same for everyone), and you black him out? Not very mature bro.

Let him say his peace. True, he was on 3-4 other drugs and it could ve any one or the combo of all of them...but he thinks it the derma. Let him think it. There's plenty of positive press to say otherwise.

Lame...you should diffuse that bomb.
 
ceo said:
N2, why'd you bomb the guy? so fucking what if derma didn't work for him. there's a zillion posts all over this board of guys saying that it's the best thing ever. One guy rails it (not everything works the same for everyone), and you black him out? Not very mature bro.

Let him say his peace. True, he was on 3-4 other drugs and it could ve any one or the combo of all of them...but he thinks it the derma. Let him think it. There's plenty of positive press to say otherwise.

Lame...you should diffuse that bomb.
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you kno if it had bin you saying it I would have said o well.but when its some ones first post ever and he is new...ya I get to thinking..

as for defusing his bomb bro come on I always come back and give back any k I take and more and I would defuse the bomb but I cant...I am A cotb and no one can defuse my bombs not even me.
 
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needtogetaas said:
you kno if it had bin you saying it I would have said o well.but when its some ones first post ever and he is new...ya I get to thinking..

as for defusing his bomb bro come on I always come back and give back any k I take and more and I would defuse the bomb but I cant...I am A cotb and no one can defuse my bombs not even me.
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Can't defuse your own bombs?? I think you should change your name to B-52! :)
 
I found his post very interesting, actually.

I think you guys are too rough.

I have BEEN eating hard-boiled eggs as part of my nutritional intake...maybe axe a few of the yolks? NEEDTO...you're a pro at this...maybe Holy Ghost should chime in.... uh...should I MOVE my hard boiled egg regimen to my post cycle therapy...when the time comes?

OH...and I thought that you were supposed to use Sustain for a period of time...I did not know that 6 days (after ingesting copious amounts of nolvadex/clomid) that this was considered "period of time". Eric...can you please justify this young man's statements?

OBVIOUSLY...he knows what he's talking about here guys! COMEON! Give him a break! (like...in 1/2).
 
nemesis 2027 said:
Can't defuse your own bombs?? I think you should change your name to B-52! :)
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ya once I drop it I cant take it back...it stays for 48 hours.I thought at least I could defuse my own bombs but I guess I cant...so from now on I have to really
think about it.its like the press pushing the red button.lol
 
I have a question. Reading about Dermacrine it says that it's not overly suppressive to natural test production. So that means it's somewhat suppressive? Is that why you have to cycle it? If your on PCT, thus trying to get back natural test production why would you want to still suppress it a little bit? Does the Dermacrine have a more positive effect in the end if it suppresses natural test production a little bit right up front? I'm not bashing the product, I want to order it but I just have some concerns. Thank you.
 
Para_Shoot said:
I have a question. Reading about Dermacrine it says that it's not overly suppressive to natural test production. So that means it's somewhat suppressive? Is that why you have to cycle it? If your on PCT - post cycle therapy - , thus trying to get back natural test production why would you want to still suppress it a little bit? Does the Dermacrine have a more positive effect in the end if it suppresses natural test production a little bit right up front? I'm not bashing the product, I want to order it but I just have some concerns. Thank you.
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ya now go read about dermacrin sustain witch is what we tell people to use for pct....not dermacrin reg...
 
needtogetaas said:
wait a sec I spell like shit :worried:
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yea, but you are different---must be that those hulk fingers are to big for the keyboard

if the guy is newer than me he cannot be a jerk--until i am allowed to be
 
needtogetaas said:
ya now go read about dermacrin sustain witch is what we tell people to use for PCT - post cycle therapy - ....not dermacrin reg...
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Ok, although you didn't answer my intelluctual question I decided to order both, which I just did 3 minutes ago. I am going to do them back to back like it says on the webpage writeups. I am excited about getting it (I ordered overnite shipping) and I'll put my 2 cents in on this board when I test it out. THanks Needtogetaas.
 
Dermacrine Sustain should be used in PCT since it doesn't have dhea or pregnenolone. I'm 34 close to 35 and off cycle , I didn't feel any negative side effects of the regular Dermacrine either testicular atrophy or reduced exercise output


Para_Shoot said:
I have a question. Reading about Dermacrine it says that it's not overly suppressive to natural test production. So that means it's somewhat suppressive? Is that why you have to cycle it? If your on PCT - post cycle therapy - , thus trying to get back natural test production why would you want to still suppress it a little bit? Does the Dermacrine have a more positive effect in the end if it suppresses natural test production a little bit right up front? I'm not bashing the product, I want to order it but I just have some concerns. Thank you.
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Oversuppression of estrogen will lower your libido. Ask many users of the potent anti-estrogen femara about this. Even on a tes cycle many claim the addition of femara reduces their libido. You're probably taking too many anti-estrogens while simultaneously having a lowered natural production of testosterone. Perhaps both your testosterone and estrogen are low.
 
Just out of curiosity, since ulter and macro have been banned from elitefitness, does Yohimburn still work? Did it ever work?
 
jevans said:
Just out of curiosity, since ulter and macro have been banned from elitefitness, does Yohimburn still work? Did it ever work?
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work for what.lol

I think they have some good products used for deferent things...nothing against them guys any more.... :)
 
holy ghost said:
oh what the hell wher did you get that smilie i havent found that one yet
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Move your wheel barrow forward and just a little left to see it in the "[More]" section of the Smilies... :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :p
 
jevans said:
Just out of curiosity, since ulter and macro have been banned from elitefitness, does Yohimburn still work? Did it ever work?
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I've used some of their products, including Yohimburn ES, and they worked very well. Yes, YES still works.
 
holy ghost said:
lol

Sounds like a brotha lynch hung Song lol!
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Start your talented writing ghost... The way things catch on today, we could be internet stars by tomorrow..

err.. But I'm not singing it.. you have to!! lol
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Oversuppression of estrogen will lower your libido. Ask many users of the potent anti-estrogen femara about this. Even on a tes cycle many claim the addition of femara reduces their libido. You're probably taking too many anti-estrogens while simultaneously having a lowered natural production of testosterone. Perhaps both your testosterone and estrogen are low.
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You know Derm Sustain is great since its not toxic like nolva/clomid. I think My libido dropped because my estrogen was too low causing libido loss. I was almost fully recovered prior to the sustain, and thought the sustain would cement my recovery. Guess not, so I'll just run natural test boosters and give it time
 
StackedXXX said:
You know Derm Sustain is great since its not toxic like Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - /clomid. I think My libido dropped because my estrogen was too low causing libido loss. I was almost fully recovered prior to the sustain, and thought the sustain would cement my recovery. Guess not, so I'll just run natural test boosters and give it time
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if the sustain 2 weeks bro... :)
 
Para_Shoot said:
I have a question. Reading about Dermacrine it says that it's not overly suppressive to natural test production. So that means it's somewhat suppressive? Is that why you have to cycle it? If your on PCT - post cycle therapy - , thus trying to get back natural test production why would you want to still suppress it a little bit? Does the Dermacrine have a more positive effect in the end if it suppresses natural test production a little bit right up front? I'm not bashing the product, I want to order it but I just have some concerns. Thank you.
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Yes, Dermacrine can eventually be suppressive, that’s why we say to only use it for 4 weeks, while taking equal time off.

We don’t really promote Dermacrine for PCT anymore because it can become suppressive with the high levels of DHEA and Pregnenolone. But it is a good cycle finisher, and a good way to bridge to Sustain at the end of a cycle.

BTW, we do recommend running the Sustain as long as you like. There really would be no reason to cycle it since it has nothing suppressive about it, and it’s never overly-suppressed estrogen levels.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, Dermacrine can eventually be suppressive, that’s why we say to only use it for 4 weeks, while taking equal time off.

We don’t really promote Dermacrine for PCT - post cycle therapy - anymore because it can become suppressive with the high levels of DHEA and Pregnenolone. But it is a good cycle finisher, and a good way to bridge to Sustain at the end of a cycle.

BTW, we do recommend running the Sustain as long as you like. There really would be no reason to cycle it since it has nothing suppressive about it, and it’s never overly-suppressed estrogen levels.

-Pp
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Thank you very much for your answer. I got my Dermacrine and Dermacrine Sustain this morning. Very good service since I just ordered it yesterday. One more question: Is there any way to make it more potent so you can use less pumps out of the can? I mean, 5 pumps is a lot of sauce, it's like putting globs of suntan lotion on all over your body.
 
holy ghost said:
no, DO UNLEASHED AND DERMA .
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Derma is suppressive, isn't it. I'm trying to recover once in for all and not go back to ass. I already ordered animal stack and unleashed. Unless its a bad/counterproductive combo, I want to run it. After all, there both natural test boosters.
 
Para_Shoot said:
Thank you very much for your answer. I got my Dermacrine and Dermacrine Sustain this morning. Very good service since I just ordered it yesterday. One more question: Is there any way to make it more potent so you can use less pumps out of the can? I mean, 5 pumps is a lot of sauce, it's like putting globs of suntan lotion on all over your body.
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Some guys are using a lower dose and applying the product to their scrotum. (it absorbs the product about 4x better because the skin is so thin)

-Pp
 
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