Depressed.... need advice!

[lartinos]

Hey lartinos how did you run it bro and what were the side effects?

Op run needto's products bro and keep your cals up with lots of wholesome food so you can bounce back, good luck

This was about two years ago and I was running at the low dose reccomended three times a week and then I just got totally shutdown from it. You live and you learn. I will only take it as the last ester clears and will only tell people to do that way because it is not woth the trouble IMO.

 

[lartinos]

How was it used? Define "disaster" please.

It had me totally shutdown bro. When you use too much HCG for too long it makes your balls smaller if anything. Usually soon after an HCG shot they would get as big as ever. When you do infact overuse it it just makes things worse and I had to lay off it to come off. Which really sucked because it works so damn good for me otherwise and made my PCT way harder. I would just say to use with caution if anybody is going to go that route. That is all.

 

[pumped5540]

I would jump on some igf-1.
Hcgenerate should help you out as well.
I am against running HCG throughout an entire cycle. It can have the opposite effect that you are going for when overused.
I think running hcg for another run is something I would think about doing as well.

What kind of dosage are you thinking?

 

[bonnieandclyde]

I ran a 12 week cycle prop, tren, winny, t-3 and clen in prep for my first show. I was very pleased with the results, this was my 8th or 9th cycle. I ran DHEA and HCG during and started on recycle (HCGenerate was out of stock)clomid, Bridge, and nolvadex... my last injection was 5 weeks ago & I have been great up until now. I'm feeling tired as hell, depressed, no sexual desire or erections. I'm ordering some HCGenerate tomorrow and was wondering if I would be okay putting the HCG back in for a few weeks or would that shut me down? I am also running SARMS-4 at 30mg ed

Had similar issue with lethargy, lack of sexual desire, no wood .... I took needto's advice and was much better in a very short time. HCGenerate did me right.

 

[Zyglamail]

It had me totally shutdown bro. When you use too much HCG for too long it makes your balls smaller if anything. Usually soon after an HCG shot they would get as big as ever. When you do infact overuse it it just makes things worse and I had to lay off it to come off. Which really sucked because it works so damn good for me otherwise and made my PCT way harder. I would just say to use with caution if anybody is going to go that route. That is all.

Sorry man, doesnt make any sense at all. If your using HCG during a cycle its not what is shutting you down, the cycle is. The HCG will kick you balls into action shortly after the HCG is injected for a short while (ie 24 hour half life is done sub-q).

If your on a cycle not sure how you can say HCG is what shut ya down. 100mg/wk test will shut you down. HCG will trigger natural test production even if on a cycle. Will your teste size fluctuate? Sure, the days its used they will likely be a bit larger than when its out of your system but your balls are shrinking because they are not producing test, its not because you used HCG.

 

[lartinos]

Sorry man, doesnt make any sense at all. If your using HCG during a cycle its not what is shutting you down, the cycle is. The HCG will kick you balls into action shortly after the HCG is injected for a short while (ie 24 hour half life is done sub-q).

If your on a cycle not sure how you can say HCG is what shut ya down. 100mg/wk test will shut you down. HCG will trigger natural test production even if on a cycle. Will your teste size fluctuate? Sure, the days its used they will likely be a bit larger than when its out of your system but your balls are shrinking because they are not producing test, its not because you used HCG.

Testicular responsiveness to chronic human chorionic gonadotropin administration in hypogonadotropic hypogonadism.

D'Agata R, Vicari E, Aliffi A, Maugeri G, Mongioi A, Gulizia S.

Steroidogenic responsiveness to long term hCG administration (1500 U three times a week for 23 months) was characterized in 8 males with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism (HH). During hCG treatment, testosterone (T), which was in the prepuberal range under basal conditions, rose considerably to the upper end of the normal range and remained at that level during the 23 months of observation. A 2.5-fold increase was observed in serum levels of 17 beta-estradiol (E2) an increment less than seen with T. The increment in 17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone was also lower than that in T throughout the study; thus, the 17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone to T ratio, despite continuous hCG administration, remained low. Serum androstenedione was slightly increased during hCG therapy. No significant changes were observed in serum levels of dehydroepiandrosterone. These data indicate that continuous long term hCG administration stimulated T levels in HH, with a relatively small change in E2. The kinetics of the T and E2 responses to 2000 U hCG, evaluated after 23 months of therapy, indicated that the testicular response was markedly reduced. No increment in T levels was observed at 24 h; the maximal response occurred at 48 h. This pattern of T response supports the idea that partial testicular desensitization occurs in HH patients receiving chronic treatment with hCG.

 

[tical]

If I was you, I'd use real HCG and real a real SERM like clomid, something tried and true. Not trying to debate the efficacy of any of the other products used, but why chance it.

Top doctors in the field are recommending single low dose SERM (ran out as long as 6 months) for full HPTA restarts. 10-20mg of clomephine, for example.

If I were you, I would definitely get some labwork done, rather than guess at this point. Might cost you a few bucks, but the misery of a blown HPTA is not something you want to wait for (I know from personal experience):

Testosterone
Estradiol (sensitive)
SHBG
LH
FSH

Post your numbers here after you get the results.

 

[AFeedz]

I ran a 12 week cycle prop, tren, winny, t-3 and clen in prep for my first show. I was very pleased with the results, this was my 8th or 9th cycle. I ran DHEA and HCG during and started on recycle (HCGenerate was out of stock)clomid, Bridge, and nolvadex... my last injection was 5 weeks ago & I have been great up until now. I'm feeling tired as hell, depressed, no sexual desire or erections. I'm ordering some HCGenerate tomorrow and was wondering if I would be okay putting the HCG back in for a few weeks or would that shut me down? I am also running SARMS-4 at 30mg ed

Same thing happened to my ex. He was good for about a month after his last injection, then he tanked. No sex drive, depressed as hell, yadda yadda. His TT had dropped below 100. That being said, he then started using HCGenerate and started feeling better in no time. He's getting his levels tested again next week, I'll let you know how it goes. Sounds like you guys are in a similar boat.

Recovery is different for everyone. Just gotta find what works for you.

 

[NeedToBuildMuscle.com]

what I would do is get your hcgenerate and take it 5 cap am and pm for a few days. You will feel fantastic in just a few days or i will eat my words and give you triple your money back.. once you are feeling better drop the dose down to 3 caps am and 2 caps pm till the bottle is gone. then cruise on bridge 3 caps a day till your next cycle and you will be fine my friend..

you may also want to run 5 weeks of forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm along with the hcgenerate. To get extrogen and progesterone back into normal levels. BOOM my advice never ever ever fails and if it does I am the only man on this site willing to put his whole life and his money where is mouth is. anyone else doing that???? nope
thanks my man. Pm me any time.

I fucked up my man. I forgot to factor in the fact that you where on tren, and then after that you took nolvadex. You are having progesterone problem my friend. I am glad you called and I was able to spot that problem my man.. Hcgenerate+ formastanzol and you will be perfectly fine in 5 days max. Please please come back and up date all of us daily as you are talking the products my friend.

I think it is of the up most importance that people see you come back and give that feed back so that they can all see that I know what I am talking about

 

[wootoom]

Honestly, i have tried Forged Burner and it put me in a great mood! I dont know how but i always felt so good on it