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Deca is great stuff, IMO..... But NOT for your first cycle.
Most guys agree that the first cycle should be Test Enth or Cyp.
400-500 mg/wk. for 12 wks.
 
Why does it seem that so many people are big on Deca??? A personal trainer at my gym told me to take Deca and Dbol cause Test is too harsh on your body. I said that I like my liver and my dick.
 
Lookin For Info said:
Why does it seem that so many people are big on Deca??? A personal trainer at my gym told me to take Deca and Dbol cause Test is too harsh on your body. I said that I like my liver and my dick.
He is an idiot
 
200mg is plenty of deca for a first run. i suggest test but at this low of a dose u could technically get away with it.
 
eddymerckx said:
+1 1st cycle = test only-maybe a dbol kick start

+1
 
Lookin For Info said:
Why does it seem that so many people are big on Deca??? A personal trainer at my gym told me to take Deca and Dbol cause Test is too harsh on your body. I said that I like my liver and my dick.

well you can inform your trainer that's he's a friggin moron...i guess he's never heard the phrase "deca dick"...it's called a LIMP dick cuz deca causes the majority of it's users to have a libido that is basically non-existent...hence the reason that people run test with the deca...it's called counter-acting the libido issues...and minus the lubing of the joints, deca to me is pointless, which is why i run test cycles w/no deca...did it once and will never do it again...

btw...almost all steroids are a molecular variation of test which is why it is recommended to run test only cycles for the first time for 12 weeks...this way you can see how your body will react to it...test E or C 400-500mg EW for 12 weeks...see how that goes and if done right, you will be happy...and just to let you know, deca bloats alot of people like blowfish
 
I ran deca and test for my first few cycles... very disappointed with deca, and sides got worse over time, more so than benefits.

I would suggest a very minimal dosage of deca, no more than 200mg, along with a moderate amount of test. That dosage of deca will be enough to give decent gains plus it's just the right dosage to give the "joint benefits" that deca is touted for.
 
njmuscleguy said:
I ran deca and test for my first few cycles... very disappointed with deca, and sides got worse over time, more so than benefits.

I would suggest a very minimal dosage of deca, no more than 200mg, along with a moderate amount of test. That dosage of deca will be enough to give decent gains plus it's just the right dosage to give the "joint benefits" that deca is touted for.

that's all deca is good for IMO
 
tofast said:
what do you think about deca and do you have to do test with it . first cycle how much mg and how often

How big are you?

Cycle, assuming your test and deca will be 250mg/ml:

WK 1-12 500mg Test E EW
WK 1-12 250mg Deca EW

Split doses into 2 shots per week, ideally. If you can't, once per week will be sufficient.

Please look into having letro or aromasin as well as cabergoline on hand for gyno issues and PCT.
 
WOW, I'm surprised at all of the Deca haters in this thread. I've used Deca and Test-E with great success over the yrs and it's still one of my favorite cycles. I wouldn't use Deca alone because of the Deca-dick issues but with a moderate amount of Test-E or C can deliver great results.

I also don't see a problem with it in a first cycle just keep the dosing reasonable. No more than 400 mg/wk and you should be fine. Keep the ancillaries handy just in case but I see no harm in it at all. Deca is not very androgenic but highly anabolic with few sides if used responsibly. And unlike test only cycles you tend to keep most of your gains post cycle.

If you use it Deca and Test make sure your diet is good and combine that with hard training should give you very good results. It's a cycle I keep coming back to again and again.
 
njmuscleguy said:
I ran deca and test for my first few cycles... very disappointed with deca, and sides got worse over time, more so than benefits.

I would suggest a very minimal dosage of deca, no more than 200mg, along with a moderate amount of test. That dosage of deca will be enough to give decent gains plus it's just the right dosage to give the "joint benefits" that deca is touted for.
it helps my joints tremendously!
 
flajice said:
it helps my joints tremendously!


until you come off it, that is!
 
Deca is a fav. BUT you have to run Test with it, IMO. I have never had libido issues with Deca because I run Test 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after Deca. Please DO NOT run Deca by itself. It WILL fuck up your sex drive. FO SHO!
Deca with Test is recognized as one of the best mass builders ever!500T/300D ratio.
 
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