Deca with HRT

[XMAN.]

Can anyone on hrt add deca to his weekly shot for it's immunity stimulation and collagen synthesis to support connective tissues , cuz i'm very prone to joint problems and inflamation, if so what dose do u suggest and if it has to be substracted from the testosterone dose , for ex: 200mg test e / week or 150mg test e + 50mg deca / week?

stats : 31 yo , 6 feet , 200 lbs , arround 10% bf , cruising on 250mg test e /week and just started 100mg deca/week 2 weeks ago for my joints , but that's gona drop later.

plz mods and vets assist , special invitation to Omega
thx in advance

 

[Zyglamail]

For HRT they usually run deca at half the dose of your recommended test dose.

 

[zedhed]

I am using Deca for the same purpose that you are. So far am feeling a big diff in a positive way. However my dose is same as my Test dose, 200ml/week. As I remember it took me 2 months to really notice any diff in my joints and inflamation, but once it happend it is oh so nice and so very worth it.
Also dont forget to add the correct ancillary products so that you dont get any sides from the Deca, as your Deca use would seem to be long term. You most likely would not get sides until you had been on that low a dose for quite awhile buy why play with it? Just do it right from the start and then no need to worry.
Enjoy and good luck!

 

[Zyglamail]

I am using Deca for the same purpose that you are. So far am feeling a big diff in a positive way. However my dose is same as my Test dose, 200ml/week. As I remember it took me 2 months to really notice any diff in my joints and inflamation, but once it happend it is oh so nice and so very worth it.

The question though is are you being guided by a doc or self prescribing?

Also dont forget to add the correct ancillary products so that you dont get any sides from the Deca, as your Deca use would seem to be long term. You most likely would not get sides until you had been on that low a dose for quite awhile buy why play with it? Just do it right from the start and then no need to worry.

This is why HRT clinics generally run test at half the deca dose, to avoid the sides.

Dont confuse HRT/TRT with cycling.

 

[.J.P.]

I regularly run deca with my TRT/HRT
250mg teste ew
100mg deca ew
usually.

unless its right after a deca or tren cycle then ill go a few months withotu it to let prog levels go back down faster.

*yes hrt is a bit high for most but for me its right, some need less some need more*

 

[firewally1966]

I was thinking of running deca with my 200mg eow.. trt of test cyp ..but am worried of the dreaded deca donk..my trt is dr supervised and will be tested again at end of August and probably progress to 200mg every week if my test levels havent come up.but would have to run the deca on my own

 

[Zyglamail]

I was thinking of running deca with my 200mg eow.. trt of test cyp ..but am worried of the dreaded deca donk..my trt is dr supervised and will be tested again at end of August and probably progress to 200mg every week if my test levels havent come up.but would have to run the deca on my own

Keep the deca at half the test dose and you likely wont have to worry about deca dick.

 

[XMAN.]

thx for ur replies guys , i guess i'll keep running 100mg deca with my 250mg test e
but is there anytime that i should stop running it or just keep it forever, and if i use dostinex with it will i lose the benefits of deca, cuz it seems the progestenic effect of it is the cause of joint fluid retention and collagen synthesis, cuz i heard the female sex hormones estro. and prog. is what increases the collagen synthesis bone density and stimulates the immune system , that's y when we use ancillaries we feel dryness in our joints and a little ill.
any ideas guys???

 

[Zyglamail]

100mg deca a week is a pretty low dose. You should get some of the collagen synth benefits without the worry of prog sides.

 

[straitedge52]

Just as a thought...consider adding in Forma Stanzol while you're on and see if that helps with the "Deca Dick". I run 400~500 mg/week of Test Cyp and drop back to 150~200mg for my HRT. I get shut down and the Forma Stanzol + Bridge kicks my libido "want to" and performance in the ass..good stuff.

If Needto or Radar see this they will jump in with some good info that is more valuable.

 

[jnuts]

Does anybody experience bloat with the listed Deca dosages (1/2 of T)?

 

[XMAN.]

100mg deca a week is a pretty low dose. You should get some of the collagen synth benefits without the worry of prog sides.

unfortunately for me even 100mg raises my prolactin , it made my nipple puffy and bloated my face and acne all over my body and a hell of a mood swing it happens everytime when i'm on deca even at a low dose like 50mg weekly but of course after a month buildup so i guess i need an anti prolactin like dostinex but my question is will i loose deca's benefit with it?
thx for ur replies bro

 

[Power36]

I did 200mg or 300mg of Deca a week when I started HRT, I forget but it was 200/300mg weekly with same amount of Test....I dropped weight on it and was NOT bloated...I felt like I had Deca Dick and I know I got tons of zits, but as explained on here it might have been just because it was me starting out and my body adjusting to HRT causing zits, or not doing more frequent injections per week...but yea I didnt bloat from Deca at all, I dropped weight...but I had serious hormone issues and was rock bottom and put on lots of fat and lost tons of muscle over a multiple year period...I seriously needed HRT, once I got on I started dropping weight and going back to where I normally was....so it blows me away how people get on HRT and gain tons of weight...guess we are all different, or depending on where you are hormonally will dictate how T and Deca could affect you...

I read some of the AAS cycle forums and crap myself people putting on 30-40lbs.....Id hate for that to happen, but then again Ive always been a big mesomorph dude...30-40lbs on me would make me a gigantic MFer and probably stupid looking obvious juicer...hence not playing with any Dbol or going over 300mg Test, and backing it down to 200mg week....someday I might play with 500-600mg Test to see what it does but Im actually laughing id probably get way too big too quick hah....

So I am not the expert, but based on my reading, and my little experience on HRT and AAS included in that, everyone probably has a unique reaction to these compounds...

 

[Power36]

If your asking me, I have a doc

 

[Discreet User]

I tried getting my TRT doc to prescribe me Deca last week.

He's willing to prescribe me as much Test as I want, but when it came to the Deca he said that he can't do it because the DEA will flag him as a physician...

 

[gstacker]

Lowering your estrogen to much will cause joint pain, dostinex doesnt do that, it lowers prolactin so it wont out way the use of deca. At least thats my understanding.

 

[XMAN.]

Lowering your estrogen to much will cause joint pain, dostinex doesnt do that, it lowers prolactin so it wont out way the use of deca. At least thats my understanding.

ur absolutely right , but every time i use dostinex (0.25mg twice a week) i feel a bit dry from the outside ie , my face shrinks my cheeks gone even my belly fat is less but that's from the outside, i don't feel soreness in my joints like on proviron or adex but my concern is will it limit the water retention in them for the synovial fluids cuz i think prolac also plays a role in the retention not only estro.

 

[Power36]

I tried getting my TRT doc to prescribe me Deca last week.

He's willing to prescribe me as much Test as I want, but when it came to the Deca he said that he can't do it because the DEA will flag him as a physician...

There are clinics who will give you Deca if you complain of joint pain....I know of one personally and I know a moderator on here who has a smilar one, prices similar, procedure similar, etc....they will give you high dose test, AI, HCG, Deca, and in extreme cases possibly Var or Winny....

 

[Discreet User]

There are clinics who will give you Deca if you complain of joint pain....I know of one personally and I know a moderator on here who has a smilar one, prices similar, procedure similar, etc....they will give you high dose test, AI, HCG, Deca, and in extreme cases possibly Var or Winny....

I would love to work with your type of clinic.

Unfortunately, they turn me down due to my age (22).

Seems they don't care that I have the blood work which qualifies me for TRT...

My local doc will do TRT for me, that's why I'm working with him and not an HRT clinic at this point.

 

[Power36]

Holy sh$t....yea I feel ya on that, I think they mentioned to a friend who uses them that 33 is their cut off age and you really need poor lab work even at that age....at your age throwing Deca and Var etc is a huge red flag and risk....I wouldnt take it personal...

Crap there are tons of young guys on here with low T, thats scary....was it heavy cycles when you were young like some of the others on here?

I would love to work with your type of clinic.

Unfortunately, they turn me down due to my age (22).

Seems they don't care that I have the blood work which qualifies me for TRT...

My local doc will do TRT for me, that's why I'm working with him and not an HRT clinic at this point.

 

[layinback]

My doc scripts me 200mgs nandrolone wk. I usually run it 10 weeks and come off for 10. 200mgs of pharm deca is waaay plenty! I'm scripted 400mgs cyp wk and HGH. My bloodwork is always spot on
and i feel great. I'm 6'4 248 lb's @ 6 - 8% BF year round. I usually hover round 240 but hit 250 when i'm in a building phase.

 

[Discreet User]

Holy sh$t....yea I feel ya on that, I think they mentioned to a friend who uses them that 33 is their cut off age and you really need poor lab work even at that age....at your age throwing Deca and Var etc is a huge red flag and risk....I wouldnt take it personal...

Crap there are tons of young guys on here with low T, thats scary....was it heavy cycles when you were young like some of the others on here?

I never touched AAS before getting labs done for TRT.

People naturally assume that I was a user and that is why my natty test production is low.

I really don't know why my levels are low at my age. I've always eaten well and trained properly. I'm formally educated in nutrition and am a certified personal trainer.

The docs can't give me an answer as to why my levels are naturally low. They only reassure me that it is common to see low T in the 20's.

 

[caribeman]

My doc scripts me 200mgs nandrolone wk. I usually run it 10 weeks and come off for 10. 200mgs of pharm deca is waaay plenty! I'm scripted 400mgs cyp wk and HGH. My bloodwork is always spot on
and i feel great. I'm 6'4 248 lb's @ 6 - 8% BF year round. I usually hover round 240 but hit 250 when i'm in a building phase.

So even at 400mgs Cyp and HCG and your blood test comes back ok? May I ask what "OK" means? I would assume your Test is off the charts, free test high, LH low and Estaridol/Estrogen High.

I do not mean to doubt how you feel but it would be interesting to actually see readings. Thanks again.

 

[Zyglamail]

So even at 400mgs Cyp and HCG and your blood test comes back ok? May I ask what "OK" means? I would assume your Test is off the charts, free test high, LH low and Estaridol/Estrogen High.

I do not mean to doubt how you feel but it would be interesting to actually see readings. Thanks again.

Just out of curiosity I would like to see his numbers as well BUT, the dude is huge at 6'4 248 lb's @ 6 - 8% BF year round. Thats a lot of fucking lean beef so dont expect 400mg/wk of test to hit him like it does a 150lb dude.

 

[XMAN.]

Just out of curiosity I would like to see his numbers as well BUT, the dude is huge at 6'4 248 lb's @ 6 - 8% BF year round. Thats a lot of fucking lean beef so dont expect 400mg/wk of test to hit him like it does a 150lb dude.

ur right he's huge but 400mg/week is way above TRT , this is more like pro cruising.

 

[caribeman]

Yeah I can dig that, size should/would make a difference and we can see he is a big dude. None the less....

 

[Power36]

Im 250 range and 200mg-300mg week of T doesnt make me feel nearly as good as I was before I had medical issues, and my #s are not off the charts, just at top range 1200 or so...seeing he is half my BF% and just as heavy, 400mg might be putting him in the top range but not blown out of water depending on what his baseline is?

 

[XMAN.]

This is a thread by OMEGA in the anabolic steroid forum and i think it will answer everything about Deca use : http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...ect-power-deca-its-tea-time-omega-719267.html

 

[johnmadsen37]

Will HGH do the same as Deca?

 

[XMAN.]

Will HGH do the same as Deca?

no it won't reduce or mask any pain like Deca does but in the long run it generally heals an old injury or at least improve it as it works on reconstitution of the cells, usually HGH cycles r run for 6 months at least.