Deca, Npp, Anavar Cyle Planning Help

[Texas Monster]

So running two full pcts? With HCG and everything?

pct 1
HCG into clomid therapy

pct 2
Hcg into clomid therapy

you had to pct like that?

Also my first deca cycle I couldn't get my hands on any caber. Is that probably why I started seeing diminishing returns towards the end of the cycle? In other words if prog gets to high doesn't that block the AR correct? And when this happens will you start loosing muscle mass?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^^ NO run 1 pct and stretch it out

hcg does not need to be ED. that is way too much. 500-1000Iu's every 3.5 days as a kickstart to pct. throw in 2-3 hits of HMG as well.
don't go into pct with raisin nuts.

run the caber and aromasin during as you wrote. but also start hcgenerate week 5 to keep the nuts plump

then for pct you do not need clomid AND aromasin.. the clomid is your SERM. don't go crazy and kill your estrogen like guys used to do in the old days. i disagree with running estrogen killing compounds during pct, run 1 SERM that is all.. not 2 or 3 like i read a lot of guys do then bitch when their sex drive dissapears .. the old nolva/clomid pct is a classic FAIL pct for that reason.

run low dose clomid and stretch it out for 4-6 weeks, run a natty test booster. that will work. throw in whatever natty supps you want in there. up your cals, creatine is good. anything that won't suppress your body is fair game to help you hold your gains

 

[Texas Monster]

I was asking more about your pct experience since you said you had to pct twice. Was wondering since you had to pct twice if you had to use hcg twice.

Anyone know about the other question I wrote about prog getting to high?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ no it was cause my pct was way too short. i did not compensate for the fact that deca and sustanon takes 5-6 weeks to clear out of the system. i learned the hard way and i learned very fast.

hcg is more of a kicker, i do not consider it techniqually part of pct. but its so important to use. stack it with HMG and its a lethal kickstart.

 

[Texas Monster]

So I been Thinking about it and in terms of sides/gains/length/results/recovery I am going to just be sticking with short esters from now on. This way I can get the fastest results and be on the shortest amount of time. This lets me have the option to cycle more frequently as well as not put me at risk of being a trt patient which I want to try to avoid till I am older and wont give a fuck being the grandpa on test hahaha.

Anyways My cycles from now on will most likely look something like this.

Week 1-11 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 1-8 NPP 100mg eod
Week 1-6 Anavar 40mg ed or winny (depending on goals ie cut/gain)
Forma/ adex or aromasin ( add in adex and aromasin as needed)
Caber 1mg a week
HCGenerate

PCT
Clomid
PCT+UNLEASHED
PHYTOSERMS 347
N2gaurd
HCGenerate

I feel that this would be the optimum way to cycle. 12 weeks on plus pct then take a few months then blast it again. This should also be a nice transition from cycling to PCT to Natural and back on again giving me the most kept gains as well as less side effects from running cycles 12+weeks.

What do you guys think.

PCT starts week 12. This would fit right into everything that I loved from my previous cycles and cut out everything that I hated.