Deca, Npp, Anavar Cyle Planning Help

[Texas Monster]

So I am planning out my next mass cycle for the winter and was hoping for some valuable input.

Cycle History:
This will be my third cycle. First cycle I ran a straight Anavar and Winny cycle at 40mg ed a piece for 10 weeks. 2nd cycle was a deca cycle. I ran the deca for 14 weeks and established really noticeable gains, the only thing i didnt like about the length of the cycle was that by week 16 I really really wanted to be clean but had to wait patiently to pct till week 19-20 when the deca cleared. So next cycle I want it to only last 14 weeks max. This is why I want to run NPP in my next cycle that way I can still run Nandralone for 14 weeks with the benefit of having a high nandralone level for the entire cycle instead of cutting it short at week 8 to let the long ester clear in enough time for pct by week 15 and have a build up to week 8 then falling levels to week 14.

For my Third Cycle I plan on running Deca, Npp, Test C, And Test Prop, and Anavar.

Week 1-10 Test c 500mg
Week 1-8 Deca 500 mg
Week 8-14 NPP 100 mg eod
Week 10-14 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 1-6 Anavar 80mg

Week 15 start pct

Also aromasin 12.5mg ed to eod depending on estro. Caber .5 mg x 2 a week. Hcg 250 iu x 2 a week. Letro on hand.

PCT
Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25/
HCG 10 days before ester clears 1000 iu ed.
aromasin 12.5mg ed

Does this seem reasonable to stack the short esters at the end, or will adding in the short esters at the end combined with the high amount of long esters in my body already at the time lead to having to high of a dosage? Because at week 8 I would still have around 1000mg of deca in my system. Or would it be a better Idea to stack the short esters at the beggining to have quicker gains with the front loaded anavar, then let the long esters build till week 8 then just let them clear with the rest of the test.

Example
Week 1-6 NPP 100mg eod
Week 1-6 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 1-8 Deca 500mg
Week 1-10 Test C 500mg
Week 10-14 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 1-4 Anavar 80 mg ed.

Also aromasin 12.5mg ed to eod depending on estro. Caber .5 mg x 2 a week. Hcg 250 iu x 2 a week. Letro on hand.

PCT
Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25/
HCG 10 days before ester clears 1000 iu ed.
aromasin 12.5mg ed

Another option I was thinking about was running the short esters at the begging of the cycle and at the End.

Example:

Example
Week 1-6 NPP 100mg eod
Week 1-6 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 1-8 Deca 500mg
Week 1-10 Test C 500mg
Week 10-14 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 1-4 Anavar 80 mg ed.
Week 8-14 npp 100mg eod

Also aromasin 12.5mg ed to eod depending on estro. Caber .5 mg x 2 a week. Hcg 250 iu x 2 a week. Letro on hand.

PCT
Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25/
HCG 10 days before ester clears 1000 iu ed.
aromasin 12.5mg ed


The only problem I am seeing with this kind of layout would be a very high nadralone level. Regardless I want to run the test prop at the end so I can have a smooth transition into pct instead of playing the waiting game for the long esters.

What do you guys think the best option is to optimize my 14 cycle?

Stats:
Age 25
Ht 6,1
Weight 250
BF 9%

Training history: all my life, BB 8 years.

 

[moya]

imo it would be a waste to run var at the front end of a deca cycle... you would look much better if you finished with it, and the npp will have you holding much less water... if youre gonna kickstart, id use somthing more 'potent' like dbol...

 

[joeblow12345]

Just keep it simple. If you want the benefits of the shott esters than run npp, prop, and var. Like this.

1-12 test p 150 mg eod
1-10 npp 100 mg eod
6-12 var 80 mg day
4-13 hcg 250 ius 2xs week
1-13 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
13-17 clomid 25 mg day
13-17 post cycle/unleashed combo
13- 17 forma or aromasin
1-14 caber 0.5 mg every 3 rd day
17-21 bridge or sarms( optional but nice addition)


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[Texas Monster]

I was thinking of dbol too but right now all my guy can get is anadrol and I tried it at the start of my last cycle for a week and didnt like it at all.

If he can get some dbol, or tbol I would definately front end with the dbol. Maybe consider throughing in some var at the end if my mid blood cycle work comes back of for my liver.

What would be a good front end stack for dbol?
I was thinking 4 to 6 weeks at 60mg ed

 

[Texas Monster]

I would love to run all short esters If it didn't cut into the pocket book so much .
That would be 4.2 bottles of prop 3.5 bottles of npp

I get a good deal on the long esters in "bulk" price so that is why I am trying to have the best of both worlds.

I allready have enough deca, test, and Var to run almost 3 to 4 cycles. The only things I need to get now are just the ancillaries, pct, and short esters and other orals if i decide to through them in.

 

[dylangemelli]

I was thinking of dbol too but right now all my guy can get is anadrol and I tried it at the start of my last cycle for a week and didnt like it at all.

If he can get some dbol, or tbol I would definately front end with the dbol. Maybe consider throughing in some var at the end if my mid blood cycle work comes back of for my liver.

What would be a good front end stack for dbol?
I was thinking 4 to 6 weeks at 60mg ed

4 weeks at 30-40 mg is plenty

 

[moya]

60mg dbol is overkill bro... 30mg you will feel great...

 

[Texas Monster]

Cool. So I will try to stack the front end with dbol at 40 mg. Then would it be ok to end the last 4 weeks with var at 80 mg a day?

 

[joeblow12345]

Cool. So I will try to stack the front end with dbol at 40 mg. Then would it be ok to end the last 4 weeks with var at 80 mg a day?

Ya I frequently run anadrol as a kicker and end with tbol. And 40-50 mg dbol is plenty. After that the sides go way up for me, but the benefits arent that much better.

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[Texas Monster]

Then I Think I will just stick with this cycle.

Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg ed
Week 1-8 Deca 500mg
Week 1-10 Test C 500mg
Week 10-14 Test prop 100mg eod
Week 8-14 NPP 100mg eod
Week 10-14 Anavar 80mg ed

12.5mg aromasin ed to eod (depending on estro sides)
caber .5 mg 2x a week
letro on hand
HCG 250 iu 2x a week.

Week 15 start PCT
10 days before esters clear. HCG 1000 iu ed.
Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
Aromasin 12.5mg ed
DHEA, Tribulus, natty test boosters etc

Now for the NPP can that go all the way up to week 14 as well? The common protocol is to run test c 2 weeks longer than deca but isnt that just so that the test and the deca clear at the same time anyway?