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(debate for the ages) Muay Thai or TKD?

Big Rick Rock

Big Rick Rock

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What is best? and what do you base your opinion on?
 
Thai. Easlily. No forms. More sparring. The low kicks to the inner & outer Quads would cripple probably any TKD fighter that wasn't conditioned for one.
 
I personally prefer muay thai as a fighting art, TKD is more spiritual, yes you can be a good fighter with TKD but I think the more sparring time and agressive background of MT is better for fighting.

I make this basis on sparring a TKD and a MT in a practice where almost everything was allowed (no biting,headbuts,eye gouging ect...) the TKD guy was pretty tough on the outside so I had to just wait for him to initiate first and then I went for a Takedown and end up using elbow to finish it. NOt full elbows but basic taps (friend was opponent). The MT guy was much harder to shoot in on but lagged on punching. Fucker caught me witha knee though ;(. But close inside I just went for a lock and sweep and choke out on ground.

Both are well accomplished in their field and if I had to fight using their rules I would have been beaten easily, but thank god it wasn't
 
I was going to direct you to that clip, BRR.
 
TKD is way too one sided of an art.
What would a TKD guy do if someone tied him up and had him in the clinch?
What if someone took him to the ground?

TKD relies on the fight being over within one or two kicks or punches, but not everyone who trains TKD has the power to imobilize someone with one or two kicks, or the accuracy to connect on the chin or temple which are key KO points.

and if your fighting a experienced MT guy or BJJ guy then you better be able to take him out within the first few strikes b/c thats all the time they need to be able to tie you up in a clinch or take you to the ground.
I think theres too much flashiness in TKD, too many spinning kicks and flying kicks that are better kept in the movies then in a self defense situation.
 
what about san shou?
 
Big Rick Rock said:
what about san shou?
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Thats a good one. The two are so similar that I believe the one who got the best blow in to set up for either the Thai throw or the San Shou suplex would fair better. But the suplex would be the more devastating.

TKD vs Thai-

I'll throw this at you- how many UFC type fighters use TKD in the octagon? Or K-1 even?

The TKD guys who come to us usually pull off a spinning back kick or two. But they usually land without force or conviction .Then, they get their ass handed to them. A few of them have been Olympic team finalists or hopefuls. In the clinch, it's like fighting a noodle dancing rag doll.
 
Gawd, that was a pathetic display by the TKD dude. Maybe if he had taken off his godamn dress, and remembered he has two fists he would have done better. Karma for the nice vid, BRR.


There's no question on the praticality of Muai Thai vs TKD; I train TKD, and love it, but it sure as hell doesn't stand up versus other martial arts. In saying that, not all schools of TKD are the same. A lot are olympic-oriented; they train for the "foot-tag" type competition, which I believe is more of a WTF style. My TKD school is more traditional, and is actually similar to the shito-ryu style of karate I took as a teen.
 
MikeMartial said:
Gawd, that was a pathetic display by the TKD dude. Maybe if he had taken off his godamn dress, and remembered he has two fists he would have done better. Karma for the nice vid, BRR.


There's no question on the praticality of Muai Thai vs TKD; I train TKD, and love it, but it sure as hell doesn't stand up versus other martial arts. In saying that, not all schools of TKD are the same. A lot are olympic-oriented; they train for the "foot-tag" type competition, which I believe is more of a WTF style. My TKD school is more traditional, and is actually similar to the shito-ryu style of karate I took as a teen.
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Agreed- there are some badass TKD folks out there. I think it depends greatly on the intensity of the individual and their ability to make things work.
 
I like some of the TKD kicks, they look pretty cool, some of the Flying and spinning stuff seems pretty neat. I just don't see them stading up to a real "roundhouse" or "Dragon Tail" kick coming from the Hard-as-steel shins of a Muay Thai fighter...
 
I just watched that vid and am really shocked by what I saw. Neither fighter seemed to know how to punch. The TKD fighter didn't seem to realize that a person moving in is not one you should spin kick on. The MT fighter had some nice kick to the lower leg but no straight kick or knees. Many missed opportunities tyo stirke with their hands or move laterally and take the offensive. I assume this was an intermediate level competition.
 
Lord_Suston said:
I assume this was an intermediate level competition.
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Pretty sure.
 
How big are these MT guys? The Filipinos I know are scary as hell, but they are little. I'd be curious how it adapts to a major imbalance in reach and/or power.

Of course, a "little guy" with a bazooka can take out a tank easily enough....
 
Lord_Suston said:
I just watched that vid and am really shocked by what I saw. Neither fighter seemed to know how to punch. The TKD fighter didn't seem to realize that a person moving in is not one you should spin kick on. The MT fighter had some nice kick to the lower leg but no straight kick or knees. Many missed opportunities tyo stirke with their hands or move laterally and take the offensive. I assume this was an intermediate level competition.
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Looks like they were not allowed to punch to the face- like a typical TKD tourney. This look slike every TKD situtation I've come across at my former school. One sided and ugly.
 
Bro, i've had tkd blackbelts come into my school and spar a 17 yr old kid that had 6 months of training in muay thai. The kid whipped the TKD (grown man)s ASS.

TKD is a pathetic joke, and it gives people a false sense of security.

comparing tkd to Muay thai is like trying to compare a chevette to a ferrari.
 
rodneyabs what's the need for bashing TKD just because you don't agree with it peple here train in TKD as well as lots of other MA's maybe you should read the sticky posted up. Some MA's may be better than others no-ones diagreeing with that but everyone else has expressed their views without going to far - YOU WENT TOO FAR.
 
i also have little respect for TKD (atleast the way its taught by tenth generation US teachers?), but I wouldn't all out dis it though. Its good excercise for some people
 
I think TKD is a fine sport art but too many times TKD fighters train to pull punches and kicks while scoring pioints. When faced with any real flight or flight situation your training takes over and you do what you have trained whether you like to admit it or not. It takes many fights to slow down and think while in a life and death situation and I believe that is why you must train for real life.
hub5326
 
TKD is as much of a "martial art" as tai bo. I did go ju kai karate and wrestling myself, and the only other 2 that interest me are jj/bjj and mt. TKD is a decent enough sport, but not much more than that imho.
 
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