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Debate: Cardio versus Fat burners

disturbed80 said:
Of course ulter, you ignored the other 5 studies that showed increased cortisol from clenbuterol intake, while posting this one only. Read that study again.....This study shows the effect of a single one time dose of clenbuterol at 40mcg, and that is in combination with DMI. I highly doubt ANYONE would have pronounced effects from ONE SINGLE, Low dose of a stimulant. Also, the purpose of this study isn't even to see the effect of clenbuterol on cortisol production.

Hell, I could take a single line of meth and have my hormones measured 60 minutes later, and I doubt cortisol would be signifigantly increased.

I'll need you to point out the other five human studies so I can look at them. The studies I have seen used so much clen that the response was likely due to stress from the clen and not the clen itself. 40mcg is not low to many people and if an increase in cortisol was in fact a reponse to the clen then it would occur in one dose as easily as several. It's more likely that it's the stress of high doses over a long period that causes the rise in cortisol.
 
beside cardio for fat loss there is no ignoring its benifits on the Circulatory System, and Heart. That alone makes it worth it.

plus I truly believe that cardio increases V02 max which is very important for say, leg days, and back days
 
OMEGA said:
beside cardio for fat loss there is no ignoring its benifits on the Circulatory System, and Heart. That alone makes it worth it.

plus I truly believe that cardio increases V02 max which is very important for say, leg days, and back days

My thoughts exactly bro, I'm sure everyone has seen the huge bodybuilders that can't walk 100 feet without sweating and wheezing. I'd personally like insurance by making sure my cardiovascular system stays in check, and have the added endurance so I can run and lift weights without being overly exhausted and out of breath constantly.

Prizz: I hear ya bro I got a little wound up....my apologies. I'll leave the arguments out of this thread from this point
 
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