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Deadlifts Deweighted vs. Bounced

youngguns said:
I have read everything here, biggt I agree they are called deadlifts. However I believe with a bounce you can use more weight and thus will grow more muscle, I'm going to bounce, I;ve made my decision. 380x6 today.
more weight doesnt mean more muscle buddy.

youv got the right idea that upping the weight will make your body need to adapt, thus grow, but just because you can do more weight with a certain method doesnt mean your stronger (and will not adapt).

example, if i am doing curls, with strict form, i do less weight, but if i swing i can get alot more weight. it doesnt mean my biceps are stronger or bigger just because i do it a different way with more weight.

getting good at doing it with propper form and adapting to an increasing load over time will grow more muscle,- not cheating your way into being able to do more weight.


in summary: it doesnt mean your stronger, it means your cheating to get more weight and has nothing to do with muscle adaptation and growth- but can in fact lead to injury, and weakness,
 
youngguns said:
I suppose but more weight = more muscle growth right?
when you bounce the weight the force of the weight against the ground hits the weight back up with equal and opposite force, thus giving you a big burst of help.

ask sammoth :)
 
I ended up getting 380for 5, I tried for 6 but it felt like a million pounds.
 
SublimeZM said:
more weight doesnt mean more muscle buddy.

youv got the right idea that upping the weight will make your body need to adapt, thus grow, but just because you can do more weight with a certain method doesnt mean your stronger (and will not adapt).

example, if i am doing curls, with strict form, i do less weight, but if i swing i can get alot more weight. it doesnt mean my biceps are stronger or bigger just because i do it a different way with more weight.

getting good at doing it with propper form and adapting to an increasing load over time will grow more muscle,- not cheating your way into being able to do more weight.


in summary: it doesnt mean your stronger, it means your cheating to get more weight and has nothing to do with muscle adaptation and growth- but can in fact lead to injury, and weakness,
I appreciate the comment man, but again, I do not agree with this comparison, there is no other movements that is like this. If my back is liftin 1000 pounds, its lifting 1000 pounds, if I do strict I lose focus. And like was said because I'm not going into powerlifting, but bodybuilding, and I believe STRONGLY that I would have a greater chance of injury deweighting and jerking up, then a smooth bounce.
 
Is this a classic youngguns thread where he asks a question and when most of the posters reply the same logical answer, he retorts that his way is better?
 
mad dipz said:
Is this a classic youngguns thread where he asks a question and when most of the posters reply the same logical answer, he retorts that his way is better?
no, this is a typical youngguns thread where he asks for opinions and thus ending with his own, modified opinion.
 
do you slowly bring it down when bouncing it up or do you just drop it? i mean you can slightly bounce it up after slowly bringing it down, or you can just drop it and look like a douche.
 
thegoodfoods said:
do you slowly bring it down when bouncing it up or do you just drop it? i mean you can slightly bounce it up after slowly bringing it down, or you can just drop it and look like a douche.
lool no man, it goes down slowly, right to my least rep
 
How about my example? I have a bouncy ball. I bounce it. It weighs 50 pounds. If I bounce a 100 pound bouncy ball, will I be getting more of a workout? I did bounce more weight after all. Nevermind the fact that they both bounce the same, and the heavier weight will bounce back just as high as the lighter weight (both are made of the same stuff).


Bouncing with more weight is not more of a workout that your standard deadlift. You are losing power (using the bounce to help) at the lowest position, while increasing tension slightly at the fully raised position (more weight to hold on to). It serves only to increase your ego faster. Maximum tension during the largest ROM is the way to increase strength fastest, and presumably size depending on your rep range.
 
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