Deadlifts Deweighted vs. Bounced

[blut wump]

Go do a deadlift and feel them for yourself. If you take a brush and some paint with you, you can mark all the places you feel some strain and then look them all up in Gray's Anatomy. It'd make for a good thread.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Jay Cutler comes over to the Eastside every once in a while. I've seen him do 405x5 with straps and belt touch and go style. I didn't have the heart to tell him he's doing it wrong - LOL.

 

[Sub-Zero]

YG as soon as you're no longer blacked out I'll be able to read your last post and comment.
Here's a vid of me deadlifting 525x1 RAW - no belt, from March 25th. I generally believe in touch and go reps, but I had to alter my training due to a gunshot wound to my shoulder that occured on March 10th. Hopefully I'll soon be back to utlizing the training theory that has helped me accumalate 300lbs of mass on a 6'6" frame.
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2iuoy1s

that is a goofy shirt.

your ufcking huge, 6'6 300?

care to share with us your training method... please

 

[Powerbuilder333]

that is a goofy shirt.

your ufcking huge, 6'6 300?

care to share with us your training method... please

The good LORD saw fit to stretch me out to my height. I was 174 lbs at the age of 26 when I started to lift. Having a fast metabolism, and being a hard gainer forced me to utilize short heavy workouts centered around the basic compound movements for low reps.
I'm sure you noticed from the video that I still have spagetti legs, so the quest continues......

 

[blut wump]

Jay Cutler comes over to the Eastside every once in a while. I've seen him do 405x5 with straps and belt touch and go style. I didn't have the heart to tell him he's doing it wrong - LOL.

No offence to JC, but 405x5 isn't even impressive without belt and straps. I'm not saying it's poor, it's a good performance, but it's a long way short of "wow", even if it were deloaded.

Anyway, I think we're done here. I'm more than happy to accept that touch 'n' go has benefits I'm missing out on just as I think that touch 'n' go misses out on training the initial part of the pull. I can't help but think of it as as an assisted RDL.

 

[youngguns]

No offence to JC, but 405x5 isn't even impressive without belt and straps. I'm not saying it's poor, it's a good performance, but it's a long way short of "wow", even if it were deloaded.

Anyway, I think we're done here. I'm more than happy to accept that touch 'n' go has benefits I'm missing out on just as I think that touch 'n' go misses out on training the initial part of the pull. I can't help but think of it as as an assisted RDL.

thanks for the disscussion Blut.

 

[Protobuilder]

Let's figure out what we're talking about here. Bouncing vs. deweighted vs. "touch n go" reps . . . I think there are "better" and "worse" ways to do each style.

Youngguns, more touch-n-go, not too much real "bouncing"

A shit bouncing set, waiting for injury to happen, IMO

Steve Mack (?) 700x7, very nice touch n go by a very strong dude who stays in control the whole time

Good deweighted set

Deweighted but waiting WAAAYYY too long between reps, IMHO

455x15 w/ some bounce . . . baby weight for him but would he get FUBAR'd by heavy triples w/ this style???

Another good 'touch n go' set under control . . . notice he resets when it gets hairy though

 

[youngguns]

Let's figure out what we're talking about here. Bouncing vs. deweighted vs. "touch n go" reps . . . I think there are "better" and "worse" ways to do each style.

Youngguns, more touch-n-go, not too much real "bouncing"- Good form

A shit bouncing set, waiting for injury to happen, IMO -not good in any way

Steve Mack (?) 700x7, very nice touch n go by a very strong dude who stays in control the whole time great form, perfect again imo, small knees!

Good deweighted set great form

Deweighted but waiting WAAAYYY too long between reps, IMHObad style

455x15 w/ some bounce . . . baby weight for him but would he get FUBAR'd by heavy triples w/ this style??? Great form, a bit too bouncy and he doesnt seem to be bending the knees enough

Another good 'touch n go' set under control . . . notice he resets when it gets hairy thoughGreat form, perfect imo

thanks for the vids man!

 

[Tweakle]

Please don't use mr Coleman as an example. Have you seen the way ronnie tbar rows? Don't try doing that one either, unless you're a freak with huge joints, ligaments like steel cables and on 20 ius of GH a day.

for conventional, if I could pull like this still - reset. The point being to explode off the floor and keep it moving to lockout.

Sumo, touch n go. Breaking the bar is disproportionally hard for me with this style, and I could do 2 reps with the same weight I'd get 5 with if I gave it a love tap.

Rack pulls, if I could still do them - touch n go. Keeps it loaded all the way.

but bear in mind I've not pulled since august and probably wouldn't be able to do more than a couple of reps with 600

 

[al420]

Youngguns, more touch-n-go, not too much real "bouncing"

YG - as much as I hate to say it your DL looks fine - there are areas to improve, but it is better than 95% of what I see...