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Day 3 on THERMOREXIN

macrophage69alpha said:
different beasts.. though some may feel the thermogenic effect to be relatively comparable.. mechanism is different

Sorry.

Absolutely not, and have to completely disagree here.

200mg crystal DNP in the AM (WHich you barely notice if you weigh 180-1200lbs), can help you shed 2-3lbs of fat with no real change in diet or excercise/week.

I have done this dozens of times.

Sorry folks...DNP is still King.(AND NO Usnic Acid is SHIT. It is a PROVEN terratogen by the AMES test...whch it failed. DNP on the other hand did not fail the AMES test)

DNP is followed by thermorexin because it targets numerous facets of fat-loss at the same time and is ephedrine-free. And to my suprrise, cuts hunger better than NYC or a a generic/commercial ECA, with no jitters.( I hate that...specially writing on a keyboard...lol)

So, if you re-word your previous phraselogy in your prior post that I quoted. to the best commercially and legally available fat burner in the market today, then, you'd be in complete correctness.

Fonz
 
macrophage69alpha said:
operative word is "feel"...
no indication that metabolic increase was comparable (or one might say with respect to DNP metabolic innefficiency)

Feel?

Ok...I'll take my morning temps...lets see how it fares.

This should be interesting.

My next study is a comparison of the thermogenic ability of GLA and Green Tea and thermorexin and NYC.


GLA in a 2g Bolus.
Green Tea in a 2g Bolus(800mg ECGC's)
Thermorexin(2)
NYC(2)

Keep BG and Temp measuremets for 4 hours after ingestion.

Cool.......got myself another project..god I was getting bored. :)
Fonz
 
would it be okay to use betalean hp (ephedra free version) along with my t-rex ?

Betalean-HP
Citrus aurantium (6% synephrine) 300 mg

Green Tea Leaf Extract 300 mg (35% catechins, 10%EGCG, 9% caffeine)

Garcinia cambogia (50% HCA) 250 mg

Caffeine 150 mg

Grapefruit extract (99.9% naringin) 50 mg

Cayenne 15 mg

what do u think ? i have a couple of bottles of these lying around (from my friend who stopped taking them) and i was thinking of substituting it for green tea ...

Fonz, how many green tea bags is equivalent to your dosing of green tea ? thanks !
 
Just one question. When will thermorexin be available in your european store? Everybody gets to play with the latest toy but us :(
 
Ripe1 said:
Just one question. When will thermorexin be available in your european store? Everybody gets to play with the latest toy but us :(

you could ask them to ship it for you via UPS. thats what i sometimes do if i order stuff thats not available in the AF EU store.

we recently had shipped in t-rex, a couple of bottles of glucorell with biotin, and a bottle of biotin for the glucorell we have that doesnt have biotin yet.

shipping weight was around 2-3lbs i think ... cost around $US67. i ordered it friday and it arrived here in the UK around tuesday :p

really great service!
 
XzRzX said:
would it be okay to use betalean hp (ephedra free version) along with my t-rex ?

Betalean-HP
Citrus aurantium (6% synephrine) 300 mg

Green Tea Leaf Extract 300 mg (35% catechins, 10%EGCG, 9% caffeine)

Garcinia cambogia (50% HCA) 250 mg

Caffeine 150 mg

Grapefruit extract (99.9% naringin) 50 mg

Cayenne 15 mg

what do u think ? i have a couple of bottles of these lying around (from my friend who stopped taking them) and i was thinking of substituting it for green tea ...

Fonz, how many green tea bags is equivalent to your dosing of green tea ? thanks !

No.

#1 You have the synephrine extract version in the Beta-Lean.

You need the Synephrine HCL version like in the Thermorexin.

This is like comparing 8% Ma-Huang Extract(25mg EPH) to 25mg Pure ephedrine HCL pills. There is no comparison. the pharm grade is much more powerful.

#2 Then 300mg Green tea ONLY 10% ECGC's? Thats garbage. The study done on people gave then a minimum of 90mg ECGC's 3X/day for a total of 270mg ECGC's. Yours only has 30mg ECGC's.

#3 HCA is another supplement were the quantity is just NOT sufficient. TYou need close to 5-7g TOTAL HCA(10-14g 50% extract Garcinia Cambogia to see an effect.)

#4. Caffein is fine.

#5. Naringin is fine as well.

#6 15mg Cayenne? Standardized for how many HTU's(Heat units). You need at least 100mg Cayenne standardized to 80-120 000 HTU's to see a thermogenic effect.

My recommendation? Feed the Beta-HP to your neighbours dog.

EAS sucks, and will always suck with its inferior products.

Fonz
 
supernav said:
Hey Fonz (get it? "heeeyyy", get it, FONZ, get it?), post your *ultimate* fat-burning stack combo again for the average male who wants to get ripped. I saw you mentioned it once.

-= nav =-

OK... :) This is for NON-AAS users though.

Some legal, some grey area...but I have not included scheduled items.

1 Green Tea: 2g/day 800mg ECGC's/day
2. R-ALA: 1000-2000mg/day
3. GLA at 2g before bed.
4. AlCar at 4-5g oral Before 2PM...it keeps you awake.
5. Taurine(Late PM) w/ milk: 10g
7. Biotin: 6mg/day(2mg w/ each R-ALA meal)
8. Guggulsterones: 120mg/day(Great for mild acne)
9. CLA at 5g 3X/day w/ your meals. Do not take with GLA.
10. 2ml P7 at night(PM) w/ the taurine.

Thats it folks.

The Green Tea, Guggulsterones, and GLA will also improve you CHol profiles and lipid profiles btw. As will the ALCar improve the oxygen consumption capacity of your heart along with R-ALA(This is good...more aerobic energy to excercise).

Then there's the fat-burners:

10. T3 at 25mcgs/day(Will put your thyroid in the normal high range...which is good)
11. Thermorexin(4/day)
12. NYC(4/day)
13. Yoh DF(A2 problem areas)

Do the following:

Rotate Thermorexin for 2 weeks(4-6 tabs)/day+Yoh DF, then followed by NYC(If you have any left 4-6 tabs/day......or Clen if no NYC at 80-120mcg/day) for another 2 weeks and repeat.

Hope that helps.

Fonz
 
supernav said:
Green Tea:

Okay, i assume you'er talking the normal green tea bags you find at your local supermarket. not some sort of pill.


I'm using the bags as well....two bags 3 x day. Good luck finding out how many ECGC's your getting.....my box only says 190mg antioxidant per serving.

supernav said:
Where do you get T3.



It's illegal bro.
 
i eat with my thermo. and am still hungary as a son of a bitch.

morning protein shake 7am...50gP/20gC/15gF

stuffing my face with string cheese and another thermo at 9 am. cant wait for lunch at noon
 
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