Dave Palumbo advice

[jacshelb]

If I remember right, that cycle is from the current MD issue. I believe someone wrote in and asked specifically for a no-test cycle. I don't think it's his general advice.

 

[Nelson Montana]

please explain....curious. i've been researching for my first cycle.

Test is suppressive. If you want to get a feel for steroids you could do a little primo and get great results and recover fine with no PCT. The process has become overcomplicated by armchair science wannabees.

 

[glover]

I run many cycle without Test. Recovery is much easier and my dick does not go limp unless I skip PCT. Even then it takes several weeks before it goes limp. I would have to agree also on the fact that PCT is overrated.

The test users swear by it because they are the ones who need it the most.

Twenty years ago we used Deca, without test and no PCT recovered well same applies today, but now if you need help recovering their is something out there.

 

[bigjd69]

You guys also have to remember Dave was in Medical School. He knows his shit. The advice he is giving was probably related to the person's cycle. Also not everybody reacts the same way to certain drugs. What works for me may not work for you.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You guys also have to remember Dave was in Medical School. He knows his shit. The advice he is giving was probably related to the person's cycle. Also not everybody reacts the same way to certain drugs. What works for me may not work for you.

Like you believe those letters are real?

 

[njmuscleguy]

I run many cycle without Test. Recovery is much easier and my dick does not go limp unless I skip PCT. Even then it takes several weeks before it goes limp. I would have to agree also on the fact that PCT is overrated.

The test users swear by it because they are the ones who need it the most.

Twenty years ago we used Deca, without test and no PCT recovered well same applies today, but now if you need help recovering their is something out there.

I know how my body reacts to deca even WITH test and any other ancillaries...decreased libido, ED issues.... I can't begin to imagine (nor do I want to ever find out) how I'd feel without test. And I know I'm far from the only one that feels this way. I would not put my body through the wringer for 8-10 weeks and feel like shit... having a nicer body is not worth torture.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[ryno9000]

If I remember right, that cycle is from the current MD issue. I believe someone wrote in and asked specifically for a no-test cycle. I don't think it's his general advice.

Yeah, someone wrote in inquiring about a low acne cycle. sorry i should have included that part before. still seems retarded. Deca and Tren together is typically a big no no.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Yeah, someone wrote in inquiring about a low acne cycle. sorry i should have included that part before. still seems retarded. Deca and Tren together is typically a big no no.

Notice he's not running them together, he's running them back to back. I assume he runs the longer estered deca at the beginning and the shorter estered tren (assuming its ace although I think enanthate is still shorter that decaonate) at the end so that by the time the cycle is over the deca is out of your body.

Also running them together isn't necessarily a no-no anyway, it has to do with how much total nandrolones you are running. Same with 17-aa compounds. Some people freak out if you mention taking 2 17-aa's together like say 50mg var + 50mg winnie a day but that same person has no problem with 100mg winnie a day. If you get my point.

 

[muscleup]

Well it's not like Dave is following his own advice. He most def runs gear most, if not all of the time.

The HCG doseage IMO is retarded.

 

[mrperfect]

What is so silly about the HCG dose Dave reccomends?

A: I 'm not sure why people here seem to think test is mandatory. They also seem to think it's the best first cycle and I think it's the worst.

B: I recommended adexx for PCT back in the days when such an idea was considered insane by the resident gurus.

C: I also feel PCT is overrated in that it is not a cure and people tend to overuse anti e's

D: Dave Palumbo is a renegade and his suggestions are applicable to pretty much no one else besides him. You can make up dosages and strange stacks all day long that doesn't mean they're worthy of debate and discussion. It's just filling magazine space.

E: The recommended dosage of HCG is just silly.