Damn it, I'm sick of this Arab-Israeli bullshit

[Weapon X]

Strong_man, please be so kind as to back up your assertions (above) with credible sources and links.
P.S. - The Aryan Nation and David Duke's NAAWP don't count as credible sources.

 

[Strong_Man20]

Proof for what??

Strong_man, please be so kind as to back up your assertions (above) with credible sources and links.
P.S. - The Aryan Nation and David Duke's NAAWP don't count as credible sources.

 

[Weapon X]

Proof for what??

Uh... your "facts," how 'bout?

 

[Strong_Man20]

strongman you are funny!! Let me attack your ignorant comments from 2 angles:
1- Jews have been in israel for centuries, and you can read the Old testament for documentation.

The old testament?? you are the one that is obviously funny, if you rely on facts from the bible. The bible is not a credible source of information please back this up with hard evidence.

QUOTE]Originally posted by primetime21
Jerusalem was the center of many jewish civilizations long before these NEW arab nations were created. So to say that "palestinians" (whatever that is) were there first is ludicrous.[/B][/QUOTE]

really, can you back this bullshit up also??

 

[Stumpy (The Fucking dumbass Piece of Shit!)]

Primetime whatever mate, its obvious from your comments that you have no clue what your talking about.
This board has become pro Isreali ever since this incident in new york happened. So im gonna have to drill the facts in your head..

Israel is here to stay. They're not going to evaporate.

Fact 1 Before Britain invaded palestine the vast majority of the region were arabs. They were hardly no jews living in palestine at the time.

I like your way of thinking - if the majority of population of a particular place is of specific descent, you think that they were there first? Using that kind of logic would have you believe that Marseille, France was originally a Moroccan/Algerian/Tunisian settlement and that the French came later (the French are now a minority there). Do you think that because certain Berlin suburbs are 80% Turkish, the Turks were there first? Do you understand how idiotic that sounds now?

Fact 2 Isreali was not even a Nationality until 1948, most of them decended from europe and some from Jordan.

Following Israel's recognition by UN and major countries in 1948, many Jews from the Middle East were forced to leave their countries of residence and come to the Jewish state because of vicious massacres organized by militant Arabs. The number of these Jews far exceeded the number of Palestinian Arab refugees.

How can you possibly believe that this undisputed land is theres?? The facts are that the arabs were bullied out of palestine by force from the west.

Do you recognize that Spain is a free and independent country that is not Arab? Do you feel that Sicily is still part of the Arab world? What about Crete? Corsica? Is Apulia not an integral part of Italy now (the same goes for Calabria)?

Face it, there's no such thing as the invincible Dar el-Islam. You win some and you lose some. The Jews are back and in charge of their country. Do you think all of the territory that was conquered in the 7th and 8th centuries is to be forever in Arab hands? Bullshit!

THE ARABS DID NOT OWN PALESTINE, JUST LIKE THEY DID NOT OWN CASTILLE OR SICILY.

 

[Strong_Man20]

I like your way of thinking - if the majority of population of a particular place is of specific descent, you think that they were there first? Using that kind of logic would have you believe that Marseille, France was originally a Moroccan/Algerian/Tunisian settlement and that the French came later (the French are now a minority there). Do you think that because certain Berlin suburbs are 80% Turkish, the Turks were there first? Do you understand how idiotic that sounds now?

Oh so who found America first? was it not the native Indians??

 

[Stumpy (The Fucking dumbass Piece of Shit!)]

Oh so who found America first? was it not the native Indians??

Let's not drag the New World into this - Europe and the Mediterranean basin have a very different history.

 

[primetime21]

at this point we are rehashing the old -chicken or egg argument. I am sure the first human that walked across the land now known as ISRAEL (NOT PALESTINE), was not israeli or palestinian. Just because you were there last does not mean you have right to them forever!

as for america, i agree that indians were here first. So if the US doesnt have to give it back to the indians why should the jews give back israel?

Look we are not going to get answers to these questions. I would love it if the palestinians could live in peace with the jews in israel. However, the fact there have been MUTUAL problems in the region does not in anyway give any whacko the right to destroy over 5,000 US families. Turn your TV and look into the eyes of those wives, husbands, children looking for their missing family members, knowing that they will never see them again. anybody that thinks that WE, the US, brought this on ourselves, can take a plane from england, come to NY and say that to my face.

 

[J-Ro]

And "why" do you think Jews do so well in business. HMMMMMM????? Because they are God's chosen people that's why. Think about look at the talent in Hollywood almost all jews. Why? Because they are God's chosen people. He blesses them and he gives them exceptional talent. Now He does get pissed at them because they go back to sinning and stuff so he punishes them through history. It has always been that way. They follow God's laws and he blesses them they fall away and he punishes them. The whole old testiment explains it.

Any why do you think they are so persecuted? Because they are God's chosen people which makes Satan hate them all the more. That is why Satan used Hitler to try to wipe them out and invented the Muslim religion to kill the Jews. It all makes sense if you just think about it for a while.

You seriously cannot belive this. God's chosen people were, supposedly, the Hebrews that were freed from slavery in Egypt. After they came to the "promised land," they were then called Israelites. Present-day Jews have little or no connection with the orginal Israelites. That was thousands of years ago, and there has been little or no original bloodlines preserved.

 

[Stumpy (The Fucking dumbass Piece of Shit!)]

Present-day Jews have little or no connection with the orginal Israelites. That was thousands of years ago, and there has been little or no original bloodlines preserved.

That's false. Do some research. Numerous DNA studies have shown that the vast majority of modern Jews are the direct descendants of the Jews of ancient Israel (despite strong admixture with various host populations).