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Nelson Montana said:
d-bol question
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jvilma51
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Nelson Montana said:
agreed nelson.... i think its just a matter of peoples opinion.... i dont see nothing wrong with it either.... i was just using my personal experience on running sust and winnie my first cycle and that i think he should start out with that.... thats all.... but agreed it is a silly debate... and to each their own
GUESS
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Nelson Montana said:
Agreed! But I'm sure you'll agree that a d-ball only cycle is pointless and the characteristics of the look and gains are not like those of a test cycle. Yer buddy will keep almost none of his gains so all he will get out of that cycle is the "FEEL" of gear at the most in my opinion.
I have a better question... HOW OLD is your boy? And has he reached his natty peak? Non of my business, but i'd keep him natty as long as possible.
Every first cycle should be Test E /C only for 8-12 weeks, followed by a complete recovery PCT. IMO
Every first cycle should be Test E /C only for 8-12 weeks, followed by a complete recovery PCT. IMO
GUESS said:
The nitrogen retention from dball is no different from the nitrogen retention from test. Muscle is muscle. When people say you can't keep gains from dball I think it's more that you lose that fullness from the increased water and blood volume. You really feel "deflated" once you're off but only because the pump while on is so satisfying. That's one of the reasons I developed VIGOR.
That, along with BIG BLAST will retain that "fullness" PC. Sure, some of it is visual and psychological, but that's a part of the whole experience. This is another reason I think an anabolic is better for a first cycle than test. Test is also misleading is that you'll gain a lot of water weight that will be lost PC. Better to use some varr or Primmo and get milder gains and not think that every cycle has to make the scale go way up.
GUESS
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Nelson Montana said:The nitrogen retention from dball is no different from the nitrogen retention from test. Muscle is muscle. When people say you can't keep gains from dball I think it's more that you lose that fullness from the increased water and blood volume. You really feel "deflated" once you're off but only because the pump while on is so satisfying. That's one of the reasons I developed VIGOR.
This is another reason I think an anabolic is better for a first cycle than test. Test is also misleading is that you'll gain a lot of water weight that will be lost PC. Better to use some varr or Primmo and get milder gains and not think that every cycle has to make the scale go way up.
Good way of putting it!
turbogreek
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i agree 100%.Nelson Montana said:
so to answer your question and keep in mind that you havent really given uas any info about your boy...i would say 30mg/day for 4 to 6 weeks. this will give him a nice feel.
jvilma51
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well he is about 6 foot i would say maybe a little shorter i am guessing he ways about 185.... i wouldnt say he has reached is natural limit but he keeps a great work out schedule and diets well.... for his age he is 22 years old... and he is a buddy of mine from good ol' hs baseball lol....me i started wen i was 20 flame me all u want for starting young but it was my choice and my decision...and it helped cuz after 2 years of not playing college ball and juicing and lifting i played last summer and got recruited heavily...so lets just say hittin juice = hitting moon shots...he has held off the need for awhile....and he landed some dbols from his buddy..... so this y i am asking for him
BigGuyPHX
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jvilma51 said:
Jesus titty fuckin christ!!! Is anyone reading this shit???
Tell your 22yo 185 pound 6 foot tall buddy to fucking EAT
EAT! EAT! EAT!END OF STORY!
Your not in college and getting recruited heavily??? Give me a fuckin break!
"hittin juice = hitting moon shots" WTF are you 12 years old???
Your buddy "landed some dbols from his buddy" this type of stupid playground drug dealing is why gear is all over the media with busts.
You were 20yo when you started because it was "my choice and my decision" flame you??? Shit bro you just flamed yourself by sounding like a little girl.
Fuck it I'm out of here, you bros want to waste your time with this shit have at it!
BigPHX
