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CyoGenx

vargasty said:
Has anyone ever heard of CyoGenX ? Supposed to be a new anti-estrogen developed for bodybuilders. Heres the link http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=844. Look any good?
Can it really replace an anti-estrogen on cycle? It says it lowers estrogen but you still have the benefits of it for gains while on cycle.

Somebody needs to fix that figgen text layout on PF.

One of CyogGenX’s main ingredients (resveratrol) is actually the same stuff in our formula, so I can vouch for its legitimacy. There are some other extracts in there too that have some research behind them… and are quickly becoming popular among the industry.

Although it may not be arimidex, it should help control estrogen while providing a myriad of health benefits. Definitely a great PCT choice.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Somebody needs to fix that figgen text layout on PF.

One of CyogGenX’s main ingredients (resveratrol) is actually the same stuff in our formula, so I can vouch for its legitimacy. There are some other extracts in there too that have some research behind them… and are quickly becoming popular among the industry.

Although it may not be arimidex, it should help control estrogen while providing a myriad of health benefits. Definitely a great PCT choice.

-Pp

Yes. The Text layout on PF is all jacked up...kind of annoying, actually.

I honestly think that CyoGenX is likely to be as good as something like A-Dex, and I'll tell you why. People don't really realize this, but A-Dex lowers estrogen by around half, but keeps estrogen within Physiological range. In other words, if your estrogen is 800, on a scale of 0-1000 (arbitrary numbers), when you use A-dex, it will still be 400, which is within normal range. I honestly think that Cyo will do something similar, with Similar numbers.

Matter of fact...gimme a call (I lost your number), and I'll buy some saliva testing kits, and we'll figure it out...I'd like some solid numbers to go with my new product.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Yes. The Text layout on PF is all jacked up...kind of annoying, actually.

I honestly think that CyoGenX is likely to be as good as something like A-Dex, and I'll tell you why. People don't really realize this, but A-Dex lowers estrogen by around half, but keeps estrogen within Physiological range. In other words, if your estrogen is 800, on a scale of 0-1000 (arbitrary numbers), when you use A-dex, it will still be 400, which is within normal range. I honestly think that Cyo will do something similar, with Similar numbers.

Matter of fact...gimme a call (I lost your number), and I'll buy some saliva testing kits, and we'll figure it out...I'd like some solid numbers to go with my new product.

Perhaps…

You got mail bro.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Perhaps…

-Pp

Actually, members on BB.com have reorted good results with the primary ingredient in CyoGenX (procyanidin)....it's a pretty potent anti-estrogen. One of the primary studies on it actually reveals:

"It was found that, similar to the treatment with the selective and potent aromatase inhibitor letrozole, the intake of the extract by gavage completely abrogated aromatase-induced hyperplasia as well as other changes in the mammary tissue."

So there, we have researchers saying that Procyanidin is similar to letro for destroying enlarged mammary tissue...

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/63/23/8516
 
First off, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if anybody contacted Protein Factory and asked them to simplify their site. You can find whatever you need with a search but the listings aren't layed out as well as they can be.

Secondly, I can safely say that using this companion PF product : http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=110&cat=0&page=1 along with CytogenX will work to stop estrogen as well as most anti e drugs in many cases. Each product uses different principles. CytogenX works like an estro suicide inhibitior whereas POST CYCLE has ingredients that helps remove "bad" estrogens.

Didn't mean to detract from the original question. Just making the point that since anti-e's are over used, supress gains and cause nasty sides, these advancements in safe, natural hormonal therapy are the way to go -- either as aids for using less drugs or all by themselves.
 
I have a bottle of CyoGenX I'm going to start next week with some other supps. I'm waiting for my bottle of LipoFlame to arrive.

I'm going to do an all supplement cycle. Mainly natural test boosters and and both of Omega's products.

I'm Very much looking forward to this!
 
Yes, product works great..many will suggest that just normal consumption of water, and foods will cause additional estrogen in the male body..

Case in point, young girls developing breast at age 12, and growing them larger and larger through adolescence..

a product that lowers estro in the male is always going to be a good addition..
 
So basically CyogenX is an alternative to AI drugs while on cycle?

And regarding resveratrol... I thought it was poorly bioavailable as an oral supplement?
 
njmuscleguy said:
So basically CyogenX is an alternative to AI drugs while on cycle?

And regarding resveratrol... I thought it was poorly bioavailable as an oral supplement?

Yes. It's a very good AI as a stand-alone, but if you're using another (harsh) AI like letro, then it's a must-have to stay healthy.

As for resveratrol being poorly bioavailable...it's a long explanation, but no...that's not a problem.
 
SpyWizard said:
Case in point, young girls developing breast at age 12, and growing them larger and larger through adolescence..


Okay, now you're getting me hot.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I have a bottle of CyoGenX I'm going to start next week with some other supps. I'm waiting for my bottle of LipoFlame to arrive.

I'm going to do an all supplement cycle. Mainly natural test boosters and and both of Omega's products.

I'm Very much looking forward to this!


You're going to pay as much for that as you would 4-5 REAL cycles.
 
well i wish that somewhere in these write-ups it would mention the recommended dose, caps per bottle, and therefore one can figure how long a bottle will last
 
Pikaberdot said:
You're going to pay as much for that as you would 4-5 REAL cycles.



Legal or illegal?


If I went thru an HRT clinic, the supps would be less than HALF what the whole HRT deal would cost me for the same period of time.

If I went illegal then maybe the supps would cost me as much as 2 cycles the same length. But the illegal route doesn't come with a 100% money back guarantee if the products don't work OR the peace of mind of knowing you DON'T run the risk of having your world turned upside down over some bottles of gear.
 
Triple J said:
well i wish that somewhere in these write-ups it would mention the recommended dose, caps per bottle, and therefore one can figure how long a bottle will last


Most Supp companies structure their products to last 30-days PER bottle.

CyoGenX has 180 caps and you are suppose to take about 6 caps per day ( 2 caps per day for women). Thats a 30 day supply! Some people will take more and some will take less.
 
So let's say someone takes 12.5mg ED of aromasin for an "average cycle"... is 6 caps per day of CyoGenX an effective equivalent?
 
I think that would be about right. 6 caps of CyoGenX would be similar to .5mgs of Arimidex or 12mgs of Aromasin. It would lower estrogen to the bottom end of the physiologically normal range.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
I think that would be about right. 6 caps of CyoGenX would be similar to .5mgs of Arimidex or 12mgs of Aromasin. It would lower estrogen to the bottom end of the physiologically normal range.



Yeah but thats a narrow view of things...

The ingredients in CyoGenX should do much more than just lower Estrogen the way a Adex would... Between the liver protection and lowering SHBG, it has a lot of benefits for any athlete whether he is on the sauce or not. It looks good, I'm looking forward to trying it.
 
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