Cycle WITHOUT test ? what is the problem ?

[blackthunder]

lets see if DRRMAN chimes in here. I know he has done several cycles w/o test with great results.

 

[eddymerckx]

agree--personal preference--i prefer test only or test and one other compound--the simple ones work for me. that said, i think a 1st cycle should be test.

 

[Ross]

You guys should not be using Anabolic Steroids or legal Designer Steroids/Prohormones without including either Testosterone or Proviron in your cycle; this is STEROIDS 101. Side-effects resulting from androgen defiency such as sexual dysfunction and depression can occur, and often-times do.

Doing a cycle of 1-AD or Superdrol by itself is like doing Winstrol or Deca by themselves; you will have suboptimal gains with significant sides from androgen deficiency.

Just because some of these new designer steroids are LEGAL steroids does not mean the rules have changed. Testosterone should be the BASE of all anabolic steroids cycles for OPTIMAL gains.

 

[KnockedOutFAST]

So everyone needs to stick themselves with test if they want to do a bottle of prohormones?

 

[Ross]

So everyone needs to stick themselves with test if they want to do a bottle of prohormones?

ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!

These "prohormones"(precursors) and designer steroids(active steroids) are JUST as powerful and effective as the classical anabolic steroids. There is NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.

So, just like everyone needs to stick themselves if they want to do some DBOL or Winstrol, same goes for Superdrol and Epistane. The rules don't change, don't be naive. Just because they are LEGAL does not mean they are any different chemically.

 

[KnockedOutFAST]

ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!

These "prohormones"(precursors) and designer steroids(active steroids) are JUST as powerful and effective as the classical anabolic steroids. There is NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.

So, just like everyone needs to stick themselves if they want to do some DBOL or Winstrol, same goes for Superdrol and Epistane. The rules don't change, don't be naive. Just because they are LEGAL does not mean they are any different chemically.

Got it, but a lot of people take prohormones because they are legal. So chemically speaking it doesnt really matter, but i guess it makes sense to do 4 weeks of test prop with a bottle of cyclotren

 

[Ross]

Got it, but a lot of people take prohormones because they are legal. So chemically speaking it doesnt really matter, but i guess it makes sense to do 4 weeks of test prop with a bottle of cyclotren

Yup.

 

[Chubbosaurus]

I'm new here... what does the "OWNED by the Platinum Members" mean? He's banned?

 

[michaelChicago]

ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!

These "prohormones"(precursors) and designer steroids(active steroids) are JUST as powerful and effective as the classical anabolic steroids. There is NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.

So, just like everyone needs to stick themselves if they want to do some DBOL or Winstrol, same goes for Superdrol and Epistane. The rules don't change, don't be naive. Just because they are LEGAL does not mean they are any different chemically.

which can be used only ?

primo ? EQ ?

I thought ... 300 primo + 300 bolde and finish with wins depot.