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Cutting blows!!!!!!

joe d

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i am hungry all day and this first thing in the morning cardio sucks lol. but serously are there any good worth while appetite supressants out there? they wont hurt my cutting will they? somethings gotta give here. maybe i will up my fats a little.
 
ephedrine works well at surpressing my appetite. are the detail in your sig your current diet? if so, with 600g protein you couldchange a lot of your shakes for whole foods throughout he day and chow down on chicken breasts instead of powder... helped me out a lot mentally cause at least i was eating something
 
ephedrine works well at surpressing my appetite. are the detail in your sig your current diet? if so, with 600g protein you couldchange a lot of your shakes for whole foods throughout he day and chow down on chicken breasts instead of powder... helped me out a lot mentally cause at least i was eating something

i am only drinking 1 shake per day. its almpost all food.
 
ephederine works for me too; but I have to take it with a handful of saw palmetto, otherwise it really messes with my junk...
 
lol @ 1 day in and hating it. I dunno if anyone noticed he is running clen but clen and Eph together is a big no no!!!!! The only thing that helps me is the fact that i know ill be eating again in a few hrs and try and make a couple meals that have a decent amount of fiber in them.
 
clen works but i feel like complete shit on it and have to force myself to do cardio on it .. eca or lipoflame works much better for me..cardio is a breeze on both for me ..
 
Getting your stomach stapled is a good appetite surpressant but that may be a little drastic.. Lol

yeah lol i think that may have a negative impact on my off season.
 
There are drugs available (Rxhealth even carries some) that is approved in Europe but not in the States. One problem; they don;t really work. The desire for food is too powerful. There is only one powerful tool -- your mind. You must practice using will power to eat less and eat wise choices.

You can't starve yourself thinner. But you don't need as much food as you think. Cut just 500 bullshit calories out each day and increase the amount of sets and the decrease the time in-between them. It's the only thing that works.

ZIP will help a little too. : ) Seriously, only because it supports the thyroid, which is the furnace that uses fat for fuel. But it still comes down to calories.
 
There are drugs available (Rxhealth even carries some) that is approved in Europe but not in the States. One problem; they don;t really work. The desire for food is too powerful. There is only one powerful tool -- your mind. You must practice using will power to eat less and eat wise choices.

You can't starve yourself thinner. But you don't need as much food as you think. Cut just 500 bullshit calories out each day and increase the amount of sets and the decrease the time in-between them. It's the only thing that works.

ZIP will help a little too. : ) Seriously, only because it supports the thyroid, which is the furnace that uses fat for fuel. But it still comes down to calories.

yeah i have to up my carbs a little. i was looking at an interesting carb rotation schedule i think im going to run that. so i will try 800g carbs on my heavy training days, 600g on my not so hard training days, and 400g on my off days. i may have to up the ratios. this should be more than enough of a cut coming from my normal 1000-1200g. my diet i started with is to drastic. i think i would lose to much muscle.

my cut diet is 100% clean not even using seasonings on foods. nothing but real foods, a little milk still, and water.
 
Why only a low dose on the t3? Will that ramp up at any time?

I too have fell off the cutting band wagon of late but as Nelson said the mind is your most powerful tool, put to to work and reap the benefits.
 
man you eat like a horse everyday, this must be a real shock to the system for you. i've been doing strict diet and a lil juice for nearly 11 weeks straight now, one cheat meal a week, i have lost a lot but yeah its hard. there was an appetite supressant i think maybe rx was pushing it, was developed from marijuana, from memory the sole purpose of the drug was to suppress appetite.
 
Why only a low dose on the t3? Will that ramp up at any time?

I too have fell off the cutting band wagon of late but as Nelson said the mind is your most powerful tool, put to to work and reap the benefits.

i dont want to use to much. this is my first run with it
 
Why only a low dose on the t3? Will that ramp up at any time?

I too have fell off the cutting band wagon of late but as Nelson said the mind is your most powerful tool, put to to work and reap the benefits.

im not falling off. im just trying to do this as effective as i can but this is my first real cutter. im trying to guess at the balance of time/muscle loss equasion. obvously 6 months of cutting would not work and losing 50lbs of muscle would be devistating.
 
a large handful with 8 meals

Double that. The calories added will be insignificant and the extra fiber should help to keep you full. Cabbage, brocolli, and spinach are actually negative calorie foods. You will end up burning more kcal digesting them than they provide.
 
You don;t need that much protein. In fact, our new product GEAR will be perfect for your goals. You can guarantee nitrogen retention without consuming so much food.

More salads! (No carrots).

Fuck oatmeal. It's the most over-rated food consumed by bodybuilders. It's a low nutrient starchy carb.

Shreaded Wheat. Bran Flakes. Seltzer. Prunes. Celery. I know it ain't sexy but it's food and you eat as much as you want.
 
You don;t need that much protein. In fact, our new product GEAR will be perfect for your goals. You can guarantee nitrogen retention without consuming so much food.

More salads! (No carrots).

Fuck oatmeal. It's the most over-rated food consumed by bodybuilders. It's a low nutrient starchy carb.

Shreaded Wheat. Bran Flakes. Seltzer. Prunes. Celery. I know it ain't sexy but it's food and you eat as much as you want.

Fuck bro. I knew you were older, but prunes are for geezers :biggrin:

I actually like prunes. Those individually wrapped Sunkist prunes are the shit.

GEAR will be a perfect supp for cutting. I can't wait for it to come out.
 
Fuck bro. I knew you were older, but prunes are for geezers :biggrin:

I actually like prunes. Those individually wrapped Sunkist prunes are the shit.

GEAR will be a perfect supp for cutting. I can't wait for it to come out.

Ha! Yeah, my parents generation used them for constipation. It works! And when cutting cals and eating a lot f protein, you'll need it! lol. I hated them as a kid and now I like them.
 
Double that. The calories added will be insignificant and the extra fiber should help to keep you full. Cabbage, brocolli, and spinach are actually negative calorie foods. You will end up burning more kcal digesting them than they provide.

ok i'll try that. broccoli and spinach are what i eat mostly. thanks
 
You don;t need that much protein. In fact, our new product GEAR will be perfect for your goals. You can guarantee nitrogen retention without consuming so much food.

More salads! (No carrots).

Fuck oatmeal. It's the most over-rated food consumed by bodybuilders. It's a low nutrient starchy carb.

Shreaded Wheat. Bran Flakes. Seltzer. Prunes. Celery. I know it ain't sexy but it's food and you eat as much as you want.

i dont know man oats are good. how do you know i dont need the protein? i have cut it back by over 200g right from the start.
 
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