Crystal DNP

[saint808]

Ok, the time has come for me to start adding a lil bug spray to my diet. I got an idea from anothe member to add small lil dnp cycles over the weekend as for th next few weekends i will not be going out... simply put 200mg on friday day and then 200mg more right before bed assuming i am not allergic. 200mg upon waking saturday and then it ride out until Monday.... any ideas on this? It seemed to work well for them so i thougt i would give it a try as my diet and training and cycle are on par.... i just really am wanting major progress and developing a whatever it takes attitude. I mean my progress for a year i pretty good, but there is always room for improvement.

 

[The Almighty]

In my experience, DNP takes about 2 days to kick in, so personally I wouldnt just do a bunch of 3 day cycles. The majority of people have had the greatest results using a low dose of powder (200mg) for 2-3 weeks, so you may wanna try that instead.

 

[Andy13]

Do a search under my name.. I've posted tons of information on short DNP cycles..

And FYI-- DNP works at any dose.. You cannot FEEL DNP burning fat. What you might 'FEEL' is the side effects. DNP doesn't "take two days to kick in." It works the minute you put it in your mouth.. Not feeling sides is actually A GOOD THING.

Just do the search.. You'll have tons to read.

 

[saint808]

cool andy i will... do same rules apply with crystal and powder? Crystal is all i have. If so I have a crapload of info on it already... been contemplating this a long time and am more motivated right now than i have been in a long long time.

 

[EngiCream]

Not that my opinion means a ton, but I totally agree with the approach of doing short (2 - 3 days) cycles.

It is so much easier to control your appetite and energy levels for that short time than it is when you get into the long, drawn-out multi-week cycles.

With these short ones, as soon as you start you feel bad, you're already done.

Obviously, be careful with the crystal though. Fonz posted about how he ingested 600mg (at once) of D**_Guru's crystal and he got all sick.

Good Luck

 

[Andy13]

cool andy i will... do same rules apply with crystal and powder? Crystal is all i have. If so I have a crapload of info on it already... been contemplating this a long time and am more motivated right now than i have been in a long long time.

The ONLY difference between crystal and powder is the amount absorbed in your gut.... I think this may vary from person to person depending on, even tiny things such as how much water you drink with it..

The short cycles certainly apply to crystal as well as powder.. The only difference between the two is % absorbed.. There is no difference in half life...


I would start small with the crystal.. Work your way up.... There are threads where I have discussed this idea ad naseum... Happy reading..

Andy

 

[saint808]

cool thanks andy...

 

[the nature boy]

saint, as someone who has done crystal and prefers to do short cycles, I'd start on thursday, either in the day or the night. like the person said, you don't really feel it the first day, so you should be okay friday during the day. however friday night and saturday, you'll be sweatin' like someone trying to shit razorblades. SWEET!!

 

[saint808]

saint, as someone who has done crystal and prefers to do short cycles, I'd start on thursday, either in the day or the night. like the person said, you don't really feel it the first day, so you should be okay friday during the day. however friday night and saturday, you'll be sweatin' like someone trying to shit razorblades. SWEET!!

i've bought plastic tarp for my bed to go under my sheets and may line it with towels... if this stuff does what all i have read about it.

 

[Andy13]

however friday night and saturday, you'll be sweatin' like someone trying to shit razorblades. SWEET!!

I don't know why I am so amused by that...

Believe it or not.. After tons of trials, I find the 'heat' discomfort to be at least 75% diet-related...

I have grown to like the 2-day cycle. "2 days" is kind of misleading.. It only means "take DNP for 2 days only." It certainly doesn't mean you won't feel some of the sides on the third day...

The most I had ever taken in two days was 2000mg (powder). I would only take the dose at night.. And absolutely, positively, NO CARBS for the next 12 hrs.. In fact, I would avoid carbs completely during these cycles until I felt too weak.. (you'll know when this is..) then I would sip a pepsi over an hour..

This, IMO, is the way to go.

Andy

 

[the nature boy]

but i thought you want to get warm, i thought the heat generated had some effect in some way on fat loss.

 

[Andy13]

but i thought you want to get warm, i thought the heat generated had some effect in some way on fat loss.

No.

Ever see folks in the gym doing cardio with rubber suits on?? This amazes me to no end..

Here's a 'in a nutshell' course in thermodynamics.

There's energy in chemical bonds. Oxidizing these chemicals releases energy. Nothing is perfect in it's conversion from the usage of the energy in these bonds to do work. And so, some of the energy is lost as heat..

Feel the hood of your car after you have driven it. It's hot. That's because your car isn't 100% efficient in it's ability to use fuel to make the car run. Your body is the same-- DNP causes your cells to be a little LESS efficient in ATP synthesis. It's like poking a hole in your gas tank (well, sort of).

Now, if you insulated your engine and applied heat to it, would it cause your car to get less miles/gallon (increase inefficiency)? No. it wouldn't.. Same thing with your body.. Most people don't know that you actually burn MORE calories when you are 'cold' rather than hot.

The heat is a 'side effect.' Making yourself miserable while on DNP doesn't mean you are burning more calories. Yes, it's true that the more DNP you eat, the more calories you burn and the more heat you feel... There will always be heat associated with DNP.. But there is a difference between THIS heat and unnecesary heat caused from injesting DNP at the wrong times, eating too many carbs, etc... What I mean by this is that you can be on some dose of DNP, and if you eat a shit load of carbs, you will feel heat.. But this heat you feel is NOT because you are burning fat.. It's b/c your body switched over from fat burning (slow) to sugar burning (fast). It's like throwing gasoline on a fire.. For that instant, you are NOT burning fat anymore; you are burning the sugar you have just eaten.

As I have stated over and over, this unnecessary heat is totally controllable.

Andy

 

[Risky]

So if one takes 200mg powder or less ED , goes on a low carb/ high protein /moderate fat diet, he'll not be able to notice much of the side effects from DNP while jacking up his metabolism up by at least 30%???? better than most thermogenics

That, if he carrys on for as long as he can tolerate,assuming there's no profuse sweating, no lethargy throughout the day .......... say for about 3 months, he will lose an amazing amount of fat??? ( i read Huck's 42 days )

I mean taking 100-200mg ED, low carb diet, not much sides, carry on life as usual, do cardio and weights, take antioxidants of cos!

 

[Andy13]

So if one takes 200mg powder or less ED , goes on a low carb/ high protein /moderate fat diet, he'll not be able to notice much of the side effects from DNP while jacking up his metabolism up by at least 30%???? better than most thermogenics

That, if he carrys on for as long as he can tolerate,assuming there's no profuse sweating, no lethargy throughout the day .......... say for about 3 months, he will lose an amazing amount of fat??? ( i read Huck's 42 days )

I mean taking 100-200mg ED, low carb diet, not much sides, carry on life as usual, do cardio and weights, take antioxidants of cos!

Heat related sides? No. Lethargy? On that long of a cycle? YES..

 

[Risky]

Andy,
How about stacking Bromocriptine in the morning while during a DNP cycle?? I guess i wont be able to get out of bed due to the lethary.

Lyle advocates it corrects the metabolic deficiency in normal dieting process.

I'm going to try it and let you guys know about the results.
3 week cycle 400mg ED with 5mg Bromocriptine o.m