Creatine abuse

[crazyivan]

well bro all we can do i wait for the FDA TO FUCKIN BUST ON CREITINE NOW, same thing that happened to ephidrine.some idiot fucked it up for the rest of us.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Well if they outlaw creatine they will be doing alot of people a favor...its shit

 

[thelegacy again]

what does 200mg of creatine look like? Cups or what

 

[220]

More people die every month from aspirin related complications than have ever died from ephedra, but still they outlawed it.

Something isn't right.

First it was Tryptophan (for fuck's sake - why?)

Then it was GHB (don't use it like a moron and you won't die)

Then Ephedra

Now prohormones

What's next?

Nukdae

Huh? People die from taking aspirin?

 

[220]

Authors report a case of diffuse membranoproliferative glomerulonephritis type I

CAN SOMEONE PLS XPLAIN WHAT SIMPTOMS THESE HAS?

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic882.htm ....Serum creatinine and urea nitrogen often are elevated.

 

[TraxZBT]

too much of anything is harmful.

 

[trenfan2]

Creatine supplementation study

On thing here and it is important. Do not, I repeat, do not use creatine mixed with high carb juices like OJ or grape juice. The creatine will convert to creatinine which can damage kidneys. Mix with water only.

Your warning made me curious, as I have always been told that adding carbs to the creatine was a good way to help get the uptake of the creatine. and I have always done so.

I dug up a few research studies on the subject, of which I have attached one below.
http://physrev.physiology.org/cgi/reprint/80/3/1107.pdf

here is a brief excerpt of section XII:

Not all of the ingested Cr can be retained in the body.
While a high proportion of Cr is usually retained in the
initial days of Cr supplementation, urinary Cr excretion
progressively increases with continued ingestion of Cr
(62, 116, 338, 583, 823, 1040). Urinary excretion of Cr can,
however, be reduced significantly by simultaneous ingestion
of carbohydrates (302, 303).

I think your off on your assumption that carbs will convert creatine into creatinine. Creatinine is a byproduct of creatine metabolism.

It is a long paper, but the sections I thought were relevant were mostly all of section section XII and to a lesser dergree section X part H.