Confused between the two cycles

[acid151]

10%bf
175lbs
22yrs
3rd cycle
training since 6 years regularly

which one should i do, im really confused.

week 1-12 test prop 200mg
week 1-12 masteron 525mg
week 1-9 tren A 350 mg

or

week 1-12 test prop 200mg
week 1-12 masteron 525mg
week 1-12 primobolan 525mg


i can add eq to either of the two.
test is low to keep bloat low, adex does reduce but doesnt remove bloat. i want to remain shredded throughout.
thank you

 

[hydez27]

Test prop will have little to no bloat bro, i would up the test

 

[acid151]

I bloat readily on anything that aromatizes. I wont be surprised if i bloated on halo.

 

[acid151]

which one? please help!

 

[LetsGrow]

Only 3rd cycle go with #2 stay away from tren. Too early for it. Would add in the eq but extend the cycle to 15 weeks as eq takes longer to start noticing the effects

 

[LetsGrow]

Test prop will have little to no bloat bro, i would up the test

Agree up the test

 

[jared530]

I'm doing something similar
250mg test e
800 primo
500 mast

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

The amount of test of a 12 yr old. Atleast double it. Get ur monies worth bro

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

I bloat readily on anything that aromatizes. I wont be surprised if i bloated on halo.

Throw in some winny week 6-12. Eq will cut the bloat too but if u run eq like the other guy said do it atleast 15 weeks. Then run winstrol last 6 of cycle

 

[jared530]

The amount of test of a 12 yr old. Atleast double it. Get ur monies worth bro

The low test is on purpose. Test low, anabolics high. I would just run primo and eq only but its counterproductive because ill be shuting my natty test levels so i supplement with TRT doeses

 

[EZ_E]

22 and 3rd cycle? Bro slow down....

175 after 2 cycles? what were they?

~EZ

 

[acid151]

22 and 3rd cycle? Bro slow down....

175 after 2 cycles? what were they?

~EZ

test only cycles both of them, the first was dosed at 350 mg for 12 weeks and the second was 500 mg for 6 weeks. this is my first big cycle.

 

[gymjunkie09]

10%bf
175lbs
22yrs
3rd cycle
training since 6 years regularly

which one should i do, im really confused.

week 1-12 test prop 200mg
week 1-12 masteron 525mg
week 1-9 tren A 350 mg

or

week 1-12 test prop 200mg
week 1-12 masteron 525mg
week 1-12 primobolan 525mg


i can add eq to either of the two.
test is low to keep bloat low, adex does reduce but doesnt remove bloat. i want to remain shredded throughout.
thank you

second one would be much easier to recover from, meaning more keepable gains.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

The low test is on purpose. Test low, anabolics high. I would just run primo and eq only but its counterproductive because ill be shuting my natty test levels so i supplement with TRT doeses

I've always heard not basing your cycle around test (making test ur highest weekly dose) would shut ur dick off. Not just shrink your balls but make it where you can't get hard or stay hard. Idk they could all be wrong but most cycles I've seen people run, hell almost every cycle the test is the highest.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ thats a myth.

i have run primo, tren, masteron alone with no test.

the only AAS i would run test with is deca, but you could get away with running no test.

 

[gatemoney]

^^^ thats a myth.

i have run primo, tren, masteron alone with no test.

the only AAS i would run test with is deca, but you could get away with running no test.

^^^^Idk about that, i ran eq alone for 15 weeks and about half way through my libido took a bad hit.
Any thoughts on why this happened?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^^ your libido will likely be higher stacking with test. i've never said otherwise. however you don't NEED to run test with any cycle. I do it all the time.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

^^^^ your libido will likely be higher stacking with test. i've never said otherwise. however you don't NEED to run test with any cycle. I do it all the time.

Good to know. How was the cycle u mentioned above without the test? I guess if u run a good test booster like hcgenerate it's no big deal. Just never wanted to chance it.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ all AAS are derived from test. if you run them you will have a boost in anabolism and androgenism. sometimes its better to NOT run test with your cycles.. sometimes test can give you sides you just dont want to deal with. you can try primo alone for 10 weeks and see what I am talking about. zero sides, you can just focus on hitting the weights and sleeping.

tren alone vs. tren with test was the same end result. the only difference is i had less sides on tren alone, and with the test i had a very strong libido.

 

[gatemoney]

^^^ all AAS are derived from test. if you run them you will have a boost in anabolism and androgenism. sometimes its better to NOT run test with your cycles.. sometimes test can give you sides you just dont want to deal with. you can try primo alone for 10 weeks and see what I am talking about. zero sides, you can just focus on hitting the weights and sleeping.

tren alone vs. tren with test was the same end result. the only difference is i had less sides on tren alone, and with the test i had a very strong libido.

I get what you're saying and agree with you 100%. Like i said my first experience running a cycle without test resulted in almost total loss of libido so that's why im cautious. How was your libido during the above mentioned cycles?
Is libido not a concern for you?
Single compound cycles interest me.
Test IS harsh.
What kind of pct would you run for a primo only cycle?
Its got to be easier to recover from?
Are we talking about dht's only for single compound cycles?
Appreciate you're input on this!

 

[stevesmi]

I get what you're saying and agree with you 100%. Like i said my first experience running a cycle without test resulted in almost total loss of libido so that's why im cautious.
if you run tren you must run the proper ancillaries to contain prolactin with it no matter what, even on test. and with any AAS that aromatizes you must run an AI. forma is a perfect pick. and with any AAS run hcgenerate or hcg to keep the nuts plump starting weeks 3-5.
How was your libido during the above mentioned cycles?
it stayed constant.

Is libido not a concern for you?
on cycle my objective is to gain muscle and build strength. libido is secondary.
Single compound cycles interest me.
Test IS harsh.
without an AI test can suck.
What kind of pct would you run for a primo only cycle?
the same pct i always run, its in my signature
Its got to be easier to recover from?
yes its very easy to recover from using my pct, in fact the sides are very minimal on cycle and then post cycle you will recover very very quickly.
Are we talking about dht's only for single compound cycles?
the only AAS i would be scared to run without test would be deca, but it still could be done.. but deca has problems beyond your cycle that should worry you. as for tren ace run it 6 weeks then run a prop like masteron or an oral like dbol/proviron stack for an additional 4 weeks.. then pct. the 4 weeks allows the tren to clear. its probably a good idea for newbs to always use test for a base cause they don't understand their body or pct quite yet and are too stubborn to run the proper ancillaries on cycle and a proper PCT.
Appreciate you're input on this!

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