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Classsic and very true statement on UG labs

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black sheep said:
Any good bro with a bathtub can start a lab... Let's just hope his old lady keeps the tub clean :rolleyes:

Too true!
 
Thought you were banned for neing a prick and also for being so far up Satch arse you were on in the same person

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Thought you were banned for neing a prick and also for being so far up Satch arse you were on in the same person

Wrongun!

Me banned? Come on now. So how's that nightclub of yours going?
 
Wrongun said:
Thought you were banned for neing a prick and also for being so far up Satch arse you were on in the same person

Wrongun!

Satch was a good friend. Not sure what happened to the lad but as they say in the UK, Shit happens!
 
Been about 1.5 since Ive seen this guy.


I hope WAS is a keyword in your last statement.


Are you now taking a page out of Nelson Montana's book of using only human grade?
 
depends how well you know the guy. my ug is better than all human grade imo so fuck it. now if you wanna compare some of these new steroidsuperboard labs i agree, getting a lot of pms asking if i like these labs cause bros are not seeing results on them. like this guy taking 800mg of eq and feeling nothing on a new lab. not right imo, clen didnt work either for him
 
Guvna said:
Been about 1.5 since Ive seen this guy.


I hope WAS is a keyword in your last statement.


Are you now taking a page out of Nelson Montana's book of using only human grade?


If i'm not mistaken i think nelsons remarks were more against the use of " vet " gear in humans then the use of UG labs ... then again i could be wrong , it's been a while since i read his book .

There is good and bad everywhere ... sure i'll be the first to admit if you look hard enough you'll find some real shit ass UG labs , but i think the good ones out number the bad .

There are tons of scammers in this game , namely because it's hard to turn to the cops and tell them you got ripped off buying roids so for the scammers it's an enviroment they like ...

Scammers hide behind human grade gear as well ... lots of amps are faked and lots of vials are opened , refilled or diluted and re-capped for sale . This is an industry full of rip off artists so it's buyer be ware ...

Thats why we have places like this to chat with the end users of these products and hopefully pass on our positve and negitive feedback to aid our fellow forum members .
 
I think pretty much anyone that has been around for a little while knows that you take a chance using a UG company. No matter what there going to be around and people are going to use them. Thats why we post results from the so called "labs"... Not all UG's use bathtubs to make there gear. Some acutally take the time to be steral and make really good gear. So i dont totally agree "Any good bro with a bathtub can start a lab... Let's just hope his old lady keeps the tub clean"...So dont hate on the UG labs..because there is a few of UG's that make legit a clean gear. ;)
 
UG is the only way to go imo. Once you find a good one, stick with them. Usually they are cheaper and more accurate in dosing than mexican gear. I am happy with mine.
 
Guvna said:
you own Schering?
yeahhhhh no, if i did i'd send you a crate of primo. come on now guvna you damn well that the people that make shering are just chemists. if i know someone who is say a better chemist than prolly anyone working for a company like that, your gonna tell me his gear can't be just as good. and add to that he will customize anything you want. can't beat that just can't
 
bruce410 said:
yeahhhhh no, if i did i'd send you a crate of primo. come on now guvna you damn well that the people that make shering are just chemists. if i know someone who is say a better chemist than prolly anyone working for a company like that, your gonna tell me his gear can't be just as good. and add to that he will customize anything you want. can't beat that just can't


I love my UG lab!
 
On the side of the UG labs .... I sure love all these combo's they have created

Anytime you can keep down the injection volume is great .

test / tren

test / tren / mast

test /deca

test / eq

etc etc etc there are several other blends that are great

On the oral side i'm now seeing D-bol / milk thistle combos in caps .

These guys are thinking about us end users and our purpose , it's great
 
As cheap as it is to make AAS from powders it is no surprise how many pop up everyday.

As for fakes? I have seen some, but don't understand why. It is so cheap to make that you'd be an idiot to sell bunk for a quick profit when you could be in business for awhile making that kind of money week in and week out.

I kind of think that fake HGH and IGF -1 would be worth faking more than test and deca. KZ1 on SSB was caught selling hcg as IGF and HGH.

In the end in this game there is always a chance that you are getting fake gear no matter how well respected someone is.
 
bruce410 said:
yeahhhhh no, if i did i'd send you a crate of primo. come on now guvna you damn well that the people that make shering are just chemists. if i know someone who is say a better chemist than prolly anyone working for a company like that, your gonna tell me his gear can't be just as good. and add to that he will customize anything you want. can't beat that just can't


Gear is easy to make. But having a clean enviroment and 99.99% sterile room. That's where your extra money goes.


What "lab" are you referring to?
 
UG labs are fit for human use, as noted by the possibly hundreds of thousands of users. They aren't regulated by any particular system, so their quality can sometimes be suspect. Then again, there are a lot of fakes of legit "pharm grade" gear, so you are taking a chance with that too. In the end, and it is said constantly, if you trust your source you should be okay.
 
Guvna said:
Gear is easy to make. But having a clean enviroment and 99.99% sterile room. That's where your extra money goes.


What "lab" are you referring to?
well the name is being changed right now. there was a thread on it yesterday but thats all i can say for now. btw is that hatton in your avi?
 
You cant get ripped off human grade as well as UG. So I figure get your shit from a trusted UG, and pay less. Many people I have talked to liked the UG more then the HG.
 
LMAO! holy shit. Well thats why I might be moving to making my own as well. But I have heard of Human grade labs being dirty as well. Its just like food companies. I worked in a factory once and you would see health food laws posted right above something that was breaking it. I mean unless YOU personally do it.... how can you be 100% sure. Witch is your point. Its all a risky business...... everyone is taking chances.
 
Not only that how can you know that the user wasnt being clean enough with the shit himself. I have heard of guys droping needles and using them. The gear can be just as sterile as the person injecting it. I could go grab 100% sterile UG Test draw it out and stick the neddle into a pile of dog shit and blame the UG for not being clean?
 
Human grade amps are always shy of 1ml. I prefer multi-use vials. I think that the vets in Mexico were made pretty darn close to human grade. And we know the Mexican vets were really UG in a sense and that's why they were shut down. Syrus is a top quality lab and when they came out I believe I was told they invested $60,000 in their lab. Maybe that's why their rep is rock solid. British Dragon is not being made in a bathtub, that's for sure. If you are referring to these really obscure name brands that pop up left and right, obviously those are a big risk. Aside form Syrus and BD, I would not go with those UG labs, at least not for anything injectable. You never know what you are sticking into your bloodstream. As for orals, the stomach can pretty much take care of anything your body ingests so long as it isn't poisonous. But I would probably stick to BD and Syrus if that's all I could get for orals too. I think BD is awesome company, top notch. I've not tried LSP, but I hear it is also top notch. There are UG labs that are sterile and make quality products, then there are no-name or obscure name UG labs that pop up out of nowhere and they are the ones to worry about.
 
cityhick said:
The gear can be just as sterile as the person injecting it.

That is a GREAT quote. People seem to forget that abcesses DID exist before ug gear came around. People WERE getting abcesses from human grade stuff, some still do. In the end, most people have little/no idea how to make their own product. For those ug's that do, it is a pretty safe bet they are sterile enough for our bodies. I made this post on another board, but I thin cityhick said it too, no one can be sure of the sterility laws of these "pharm grade" companies out in pakistan or india, etc. We've also seen misdosed/mislabelled pharm grade product floating around.

I think there are just some people out there that are ug haters, for whatever stupid reason. Feel free to be that way, just admit to yourself that it is an irrational bias so none of us have to pay attention to you. :)
 
02gixxersix said:
I could have sworn i saw a "banned" banner under your name for the longest time. Good to see you back anyways bro.

Banned?? You can't ban the guy with the biggest dick on the message board!
 
black sheep said:
Gear being legit is not so much the issue, as the gear being sterile. I don't know about you, but I would rather pay more, than risk this:

http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/efn/103105.html

UG labs mainly consist of 20 year old punks out there making products in their "sterile lab environments" - yeah ok...

For sake of disclosure I've used UG products in the past but to compare that to pharmacuetical products produced in a sterile environment bearing the name Organon, Steris, Genentech, Eli Lilly, etc. is a completely different story. People are amazingly cheap when it comes to pumping their bodies full of chemicals and hormones made Gods knows where...
 
Juice Authority said:
UG labs mainly consist of 20 year old punks out there making products in their "sterile lab environments" - yeah ok...

For sake of disclosure I've used UG products in the past but to compare that to pharmacuetical products produced in a sterile environment bearing the name Organon, Steris, Genentech, Eli Lilly, etc. is a completely different story. People are amazingly cheap when it comes to pumping their bodies full of chemicals and hormones made Gods knows where...

Id like to see you back up that statement. And like I said I have heard the exact oppisite from some people that have used both. I am not comparing them, they both have good and bads. And you have to decide what risks you are willing to take.
 
cityhick said:
Id like to see you back up that statement. And like I said I have heard the exact oppisite from some people that have used both. I am not comparing them, they both have good and bads. And you have to decide what risks you are willing to take.

Ok, here's your proof...lol..do a google under the key words "underground labs + sterile" - here's what you'll find:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=underground+labs+++sterile&btnG=Google+Search

Testosterone Nation - The New Steroid Underground #2And that means that underground labs (UG's or UGLs as they're usually ... 20 year old punks out there making products in their "sterile lab environments". ...
 
T nation like most places even commonly post things like this because they are sponsored by sources that sell human grade. Listen I am not denying that human grade steroids arnt safer to use from a good source. BUT even phams can scam and fuck up when it comes to being sterile. One fuck up by a guy in a pharm lab is just as bad as a fuck up in a UG lab. I have talked to people that have used my UG and BD and human grade and said there wasnt a difference in potency. And no he didnt have an infection, nor have I, or anyone else that is using his gear. Is it possible SURE. And when it comes to infections like i said unless the vial is sent to a lab after an infection and proven that its contamainated, and not the users fault. I am playing devils advocate but I am just trying to point out that pharms are risks to. How much more? We will never know.
 
I'm sayin who is to say what is better really? Think about something like Iranian test. It's made in Iran. The middle east is so fucked up who knows what kind of actual legislation there is for this. I mean you are probably better off but the way I see it is I am going to filter anything I get from a UG lab or HG shit anyways so it shouldn't matter.
 
02gixxersix said:
I'm sayin who is to say what is better really? Think about something like Iranian test. It's made in Iran. The middle east is so fucked up who knows what kind of actual legislation there is for this. I mean you are probably better off but the way I see it is I am going to filter anything I get from a UG lab or HG shit anyways so it shouldn't matter.
on a roll tonite money, agree with everything out your mouth
 
Juice Authority said:
Me banned? Come on now. So how's that nightclub of yours going?

Yep definately banned from my memory

Strange how times change you were up Satch's arse and also if i remember correctly pushing certain UG labs very hard on just about every board on the net.

I am sure if i could be bothered and do a search i would recall the name of the UG lab you were ''well in with'' as i am sure you put it.

Not sure if that was before or after you told the world how sucessful you thought you were and how you were better than everyone else. Still that may have been all the other crap you were doing that made you think like that and cause you to dissapear now and again!

As for my business yes all is good and going ahead steadily as it has for some years now thank you for asking and showing concern!

Wrongun!
 
bruce410 said:
well the name is being changed right now. there was a thread on it yesterday but thats all i can say for now. btw is that hatton in your avi?


fedor and mirko
 
Wrongun said:
Yep definately banned from my memory

Strange how times change you were up Satch's arse and also if i remember correctly pushing certain UG labs very hard on just about every board on the net.

I am sure if i could be bothered and do a search i would recall the name of the UG lab you were ''well in with'' as i am sure you put it.

Not sure if that was before or after you told the world how sucessful you thought you were and how you were better than everyone else. Still that may have been all the other crap you were doing that made you think like that and cause you to dissapear now and again!

As for my business yes all is good and going ahead steadily as it has for some years now thank you for asking and showing concern!

Wrongun!

Up Satch's arse? How's that? The lad was someone I considered a friend and enjoyed talking to. I have no problem with Satch. Never screwed me. Shit happens though but no one really knows what went down, do they? Anyway, you've always been a cocksucker and an arrogant prick but you do amuse me from time to time. Good luck with that nightclub of yours but remember the Golden Rule: Don't chase bad money with good money!
 
Jucie you actually use the gym now?

Wrongun is just calling it as he sees it! Not like he goes looking for fights unlike you
 
maccer said:
Jucie you actually use the gym now?

Wrongun is just calling it as he sees it! Not like he goes looking for fights unlike you

I'm looking for fights? Who, what, when, where, how???? Wrongun calls it like he see it? That's his problem. His perception is usually wrong hence his username "Wrongun". Wrongun is a Trust Fund Baby from the UK. He lives off mommy and daddy. His poor parents invested in this nightclub idea of his a few years back and the thing has bombed like Pearl Harbor since then. The guy has the business savvy of an intelligent 7th grader but at least he has his trust fund unless mommy and daddy cut him off.

Oh it gets better too...Wrongun, the Trust Fund Baby, likes to make himself out as the "eyes and the ears" of the AAS underworld. Apparently he claimes to be "good friends" with the people behind British Dragon (BD) and that he knows "Redicat" personally. Wrongun would also like you to think that he was the original concept behind paper anabolics. After talking to Wrongun you would either think him and Redicat swap spit under the peer or that Redicat stole his idea! Yep, Wrongun claims to roll with the Big Guns. LOL. Need a source check? No problem! Just ask Wrongun. He's "The Man behind the Man"! LOL.
 
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The Bottomline, as the infamous Nelson Montana used to put it, is that just because your beloved UG lab doses or in some cases "overdoses" their products DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS MANUFACTURED IN A STERILE ENVIRONMENT hence the reason behind the thread...
 
LOL i have missed it all but lucky Juice authority felt the need to PM me so i did not miss it LMFAO.

All i can say is JA lives in his own drug world i have never spoken with him nor do i have the desire too. He must still be on the recs he has had so much trouble with and why he went missing. Or maybe he feels fragile as he has had to come out of Sactch's rectum.

LOL at the parents story especially as i am adopted so if he does know them and they have got a club for me then please ask them to get in touch. As for my existing business then yes still making a living. Also still active on the boards after 6 years with no rehab gaps like our good friend JA.

Still he run Nelson Montanna from the board so suspect he is looking for someone else to play with now he can't lick Satch arse and his last UG lab he said were great turned scammer LMFAO.

Not sure if to laugh or feel sorry for him but i suspect only so much rehab can do for you

Wrongun!
 
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