Chucks vs Wrestling shoes

[coolcolj]

Well the shops around here are finally selling Chucks

I picked up a pair of low cuts in black
Anyway I already have a pair of high cuts for a while now.
Westside folks swear by it, but I noticed that the soles is still a good 1+cm thick and it's soft, ie compresses

Hmm so why would anyone deadlift or squat heavy in one? There is no arch support either. After military pressing in them and squatting, I definitely noticed the back end compresses down, and espeically on presses I could feel me keel backwards

I wonder if wrestling shoes are even flatter and lower to the ground? ie like some of the Asics deadlifting shoes I've seen advertised on some websites?
Do they compress at all? Arch support?

 

[JOKER47]

My wrestling shoes are very flat and hard soled. They don't compress much, if at all.

WSB'ers like the chucks for their style of squatting. For your style, I would think that the lifting shoes you have would be better for the reasons you mentioned. (Falling backwards.) Same with the OHPing. Your oly lifting shoes are designed for that. I have a harder time oly high bar squatting in my wrestling shoes. I ususally have to place a small piece of wood under my heels.

The PL style squat is very wide, and you "spread the floor" when you come up. That's where the chucks are supposed to better. (I have not tried squatting in a pair yet, this is what I have heard.)

When you deadlift, you WANT to be "falling backward". Not literally, but you want to feel that.

I hope some of that made some sense.


JMHO

 

[coolcolj]

Ok well I like to fullsquat with flat shoes as well for a change - I lean more forward - and seems to hit my glutes more etc
But with the heel compressing on chucks, that means my toes are actually up in the air slightly more


Do wrestling shoes come in more low cut styles?

 

[JOKER47]

Not that I am aware of. I think all the ones I have ever seen are "high-tops".

I would think that squatting like you do would be a bitch in the flat soled shoes. Take a lot of flexibility, which I don't have. *LOL*

 

[LeeJunFan]

 

[anabolicmd]

Guys, leave the chucks and the wrestling shoes out of the gym. They are sport specific shoes, and are NOT suitable for weightlifting shoes. Chucks are an antique basketball shoe, for petes sake. They have inch thich honeycomb rubber soles. Wrestling shoes at least have a thin sole, but they have zero support and stability. There are actual weightlifting shoes made, although they are usually never sold in stores. Heres an example:

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/products/shoes.htm

These shoes are used by every single olympic weightlifter, and all they do is squat and pull from the floor. They give you ultimate stability, contact with the floor, and position your body for optimum leverage. Step in from the dark ages, get some real shoes and throw those smelly old chucks away!

 

[Backlash]

Well, they might not be optimal, but chucks are better than regular sneakers and cost about 1/3 as much as those lifting shoes.

Kind of like bench shirts - any shirt is better than raw, but you can get much better shirts by dropping more $$. (Shitty comparison but you see where I'm going)

 

[anabolicmd]

Well, they might not be optimal, but chucks are better than regular sneakers and cost about 1/3 as much as those lifting shoes.

Agreed, they are a little pricey compared to chucks, but not if you consider the fact that they last a long time and really make a big difference in every workout. My current pair is 4 years old, I just glued the soles back on, they still work greatalthough the smell is another story, lol.

 

[StrongChE]

The Chuck Taylor are used for the Westside method of squatting. The reason is that the floor is spread in these. The flat sole is optimal for this type of squatting. It is a wide stance which you will have trouble getting into in a normal power rack. The monolift is optimal for this stance.

When we use the Chuck's, we only put pressure on the outsides and heal of the foot. If the toes are higher than the heal, that is great. We somewhat grip with the toes, but not much pressure is put onto them.

We are able push out to the sides without the shoes buckling. The flat sole is key to our powerlifting technique.

Wrestling shoes are good for conventional deadlifting because you want to be as close to the ground as possible. If pulling sumo the Chuck's are again used for pushing out to the sides.

If some pair of "lifting shoes" really were better we would use them. Powerlifters spend enough money wrapping themselves in all types of material in order to add a couple pounds to their total.

We've tried everything to get our totals up. If they make a hydraulic ass lift for squatting, we'll be the first in line for it.

 

[delldell2]

haha, did you actually squat in LOW cut Chuck's?