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bbkingpin said:
I believe it. That makes sense. Go to the Gensci-china.com website. They have a new popup espousing that they do not nor ever did import Jintropin to individuals. Total bullshit, who are they kidding. They should have said "no longer do so."


that pop-up was not there 2 days ago.
 
bbkingpin said:
Believe it, USA carries a lot of clout. More than any other nation in the world. If they want to stop Russia from shipping uranium to Iran and freezing funds of Iranians in other countries, they can handle GenSci with one eye closed and one arm tied behind their back. Don't be stupid. The USA government stopped Mexico from passing a personal possession law with little pressure. Don't be stupid! The USA is the most powerful government in the world and they have ways of getting their way because they have so much leverage and power that the other countries will "play ball" or "go along."


I call bullshit on this. Lets see now, communist China taking orders from the USA? Cmon now, thats just impossible. Maybe, just maybe the US govt. puts the screws to one (Gen-Sci) Chinese company that has interests in the US to tighten up their possible black market or loose import status. The Chinese govt doesnt ever take "orders" fro the US, thats actually a funny statement bro.
 
You are creating red herrings to prove your point. I did not say China takes orders from USA on everything. But they bargain on issues left and right, ex: trademark copyright and piracy issues. I am telling you that the USA can use the carrot and stick method with any country to get what they want. If they want the Russians to fuck the Iranians, they have plenty to offer. And we're talking the serious shit. Gen Sci is not the Chinese government, and China government cares more about their relationship ("most favored trade partner status") with USA than they care about GH to USA individuals for non-medical reasons. But you are the fucking genius obviously. Tell me. What's your highest level of education, what do you do for a living, and who is the most important person (ex: elected official) you've had a lengthy conversation with?

missionpossible said:
I call bullshit on this. Lets see now, communist China taking orders from the USA? Cmon now, thats just impossible. Maybe, just maybe the US govt. puts the screws to one (Gen-Sci) Chinese company that has interests in the US to tighten up their possible black market or loose import status. The Chinese govt doesnt ever take "orders" fro the US, thats actually a funny statement bro.
 
bbkingpin said:
Believe it, USA carries a lot of clout. More than any other nation in the world. If they want to stop Russia from shipping uranium to Iran and freezing funds of Iranians in other countries, they can handle GenSci with one eye closed and one arm tied behind their back. Don't be stupid. The USA government stopped Mexico from passing a personal possession law with little pressure. Don't be stupid! The USA is the most powerful government in the world and they have ways of getting their way because they have so much leverage and power that the other countries will "play ball" or "go along."
It is not matter of stupidity but of common sense. You are talking about apples and oranges. Of course the US has some influence on things they are a superpower. But there is a big difference between such things as nuclear fuel and freezing funds of criminals and medical compounds. Steroid powders are a legal medical compound. If US has such influence then why can't they stop imports of meds from Canada? They tried and that ended quickly. I would like to see the act that was signed to get more info on it but unable to find anything. US justice dept punishing Chinese citizens for powder exports. Come on now. Even if Chinese signed an act of something like this doesn't mean they actually give a shit about it or will enforce it.

Perp
 
instant.muscle said:
05-09-07 China signed a Act with the encouragement of US gov. angryfire passing a law inside china making it ILLEGAL for any Person ,Persons or company to export raw or ready to use hormones to US backed by stiff penilties enforced by THE US JUSTICE
Where did you find this cause I would like the read it?

Perp
 
perp69 said:
It is not matter of stupidity but of common sense. You are talking about apples and oranges. Of course the US has some influence on things they are a superpower. But there is a big difference between such things as nuclear fuel and freezing funds of criminals and medical compounds. Steroid powders are a legal medical compound. If US has such influence then why can't they stop imports of meds from Canada? They tried and that ended quickly. I would like to see the act that was signed to get more info on it but unable to find anything. US justice dept punishing Chinese citizens for powder exports. Come on now. Even if Chinese signed an act of something like this doesn't mean they actually give a shit about it or will enforce it.

Perp

http://www.gensci-china.com/gensci/index.htm
Read the floating pop up. This is the same company that I could forward you an email from that offered to sell me minimum 500 IUS for total $1600 including insurance. Now hit the link and read the floating popup message, GenSci is singing a new tune, I wonder fucking why?

I'm so sick of arguing, sorry to bring you the bad news, THERE IS A MAJOR CRACKDOWN ON INDIVIDUAL IMPORTATION OF HGH FROM CHINA! SORRY, MORE SORRY THAN YOU ACTUALLY.
 
What is more likely is that the US have threatened to place trade embergos on other exports coming out of China unless they work with the US to stem the tide of drugs entering the US originating from China. They have successfully done this in the past. Europe did it to Japan decades ago by making all Japanese exports entering Europe go through a single entry point causing insane back logs in orders that simply couldn't get through customs.
Its doubtful that China will do anything more than just appease this on the surface, like they do with the fake clothes industry that is rife out their. International law is complex, but it is unlikely a Chinese indivudual would be criminally prosecuted for processing orders of a hormone that is legal within their own Country, they would most likely receive trade fines for breaching trade agreements.
The Chinese will never bow down to the US completely, they only ever make small token appeasements, as they did when the US introduced anti-dumping laws to stem the tide of dirt cheap clothing and footwear coming out China. Look how long that the effects of that lasted?
America's economy relies on cheap produce coming in from China, just as much as China rely on being able to export to the US. Russia have very little clout with regards to anything as their economy is tiny. They rely on aid from the West so have to do as they are requested but China has just as much power as the US. They are one of five Countries including the US, UK and France that have the power of VETO on the UN Security Council, they have the largest economy in the world, have nuclear capabilities, and will soon exceede the US as the worlds super power. Their Army is massive by comparison to the US.
 
Sorry man I had to. Good info none the less even if guys know some zips are restricted...I wonder why though?


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al_ny said:
i emailed some distributers about shippments to u.s. and this is one of the replies i got back


Dear Al,

Yes we ship to the U.S. but only to zip codes beginning with Shipping to zip codes - is temporary unavailable. If you can provide such address of a friend or a relative to whom we can ship and they can reship it to you domestically.

If your shipping address starts with we can take your order. Or you can Otherwise you would have to wait and ask again in 2 weeks.


Thank You,
Lee
 
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