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Check out an illegal immigration "super-highway" in Arizona

hanselthe2nd

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My cousin who lives in Arizona sent me this. The italicized text is his-

I’ve seen areas in washes around our mine that have small areas where immigrants have dumped clothes, backpacks, and trash but nothing this extreme. I’ve heard from friends of mine who were out hunting and have come across piles of dozens of backpacks full of supplies just awaiting the next group of immigrants. Then several miles later they’ll find a massive dump area similar to the one below.
Just another aspect of the problems posed by illegal immigration.

It is a big problem down here. It’s a little unnerving to come across these areas as I have a few times while out in the field.

As for the clean up; it’s mostly done by fed up citizens or if it gets bad enough the county will clean it up. Most sites don’t get cleaned up though as they fill up almost as fast as you can clean them, or they just find another place to dump the trash. Not to mention that a majority of the sites are fairly remote and not easily accessible.

There are stories of people being shot at who try to clean up these areas because drug traffickers use them as transfer points too. They’ll drop several backpacks of drugs and then sit on a hillside and wait for the proper people to pick them up, shooting at those that shouldn’t be there. I talked to a surveying crew that was shot at while just doing some surveying for a new mine in the Santa Rita Mountains.


Although not to be completely negative, he also sent this link-
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/05/21/20100521Montini0521.html


But still, there is a serious problem with how this issue is currently being handled, as these pics point out.

About 1.5 miles south of Tucson-

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It is estimated over 5,000 discarded backpacks are in this wash. Countless water containers, food wrappers, clothing, feces, including thousands of soiled baby diapers. And as you can see in this picture, fresh footprints leading right into it.


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The trash left behind by people illegally crossing our border is another Environmental Disaster to hit the USA .

If these actions had been done in one of our Northwest Forests or Seashore National Parks areas, there would be an uprising of the American people.....but this is the Arizona-Mexican border.

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I know some might get pissed at stuff like this being posted, but ignoring it obviously hasn't done much good so far.
 
it can't be from illegal immigrants, they never do anything wrong and only do the jobs
americans are too lazy to do!
i bet any money that it's white trash dumping their shit in the woods, probably teabagger supporters.
what do you think the euro settlers did in n/america, they stole the land! now they
are trying to say mexicans can't come here?
signed,
every other dbag liberal putz on the internet

christ-on-the-cross i have seen this pile of BS (my lib ranting) posted over and over again.
and obama is such a pussy traitor about this, did you see him kissking mexican president ass on usa soil, talking shit about his own state to a foreign leader?
or apologizing to china about our racist immigration law? fuk him
 
Mexicans crossing the border is probably the least thing our country should worry about. However for political pundits they are an easy target to pick on. Hitler convinced an entire country that all of it's problems were caused by people of the wrong religion.
 
Mexicans crossing the border is probably the least thing our country should worry about. However for political pundits they are an easy target to pick on. Hitler convinced an entire country that all of it's problems were caused by people of the wrong religion.

so we should do nothing to stop it
it's an easy target because it's so fuking glaring, a gaping
hole.
nigga plz with the hitler references, such a played out liberal fantasy.
i bet nobody in germany ever hated jews before hitler he def created anti-semitism in europe!!
 
so we should do nothing to stop it
it's an easy target because it's so fuking glaring, a gaping
hole.
nigga plz with the hitler references, such a played out liberal fantasy.
i bet nobody in germany ever hated jews before hitler he def created anti-semitism in europe!!

It's actually a very good comparison with Nazi Germany. Germany was down on their luck and it could all be blamed on Jews.

The USA is in a recession. Politicians realizing that they can't fix the economy start screaming about illegal immigrants. Now AZ passes a "show your papers" law to harass Hispanics legal or not.
 
It's actually a very good comparison with Nazi Germany. Germany was down on their luck and it could all be blamed on Jews.

The USA is in a recession. Politicians realizing that they can't fix the economy start screaming about illegal immigrants. Now AZ passes a "show your papers" law to harass Hispanics legal or not.

difference is - illegals ARE affecting our economy. Swing by cali sometime :)

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A lot of people shit on the AZ law, but most of those people haven't even read it (do it sometime.. it's very short compared to most governmental bs.)

It's only a STATE law and it's less harsh than most COUNTRIES policies.
 
It's actually a very good comparison with Nazi Germany. Germany was down on their luck and it could all be blamed on Jews.

The USA is in a recession. Politicians realizing that they can't fix the economy start screaming about illegal immigrants. Now AZ passes a "show your papers" law to harass Hispanics legal or not.

a little difference that you looked over, we are not sending the mexicans here illegally to their deaths, just merely back to were they came from.
you and your ilk want to make this a race issue when it's not.
now i'm bombing you, this opinion imo is harming our country and mucking up reform.
 
a little difference that you looked over, we are not sending the mexicans here illegally to their deaths, just merely back to were they came from.
you and your ilk want to make this a race issue when it's not.
now i'm bombing you, this opinion imo is harming our country and mucking up reform.

LOL @ "it's not about race". There's only one race that will be affected by this law. What is the police procedure for "suspecting" that someone is in the country illegally? All Hispanic immigrants are required to carry proof that they are here legally. What happens when cops arrest legal citizens for "suspicion" and takes them to jail? What if they are Hispanics that were born here and the cops take them to jail over their "suspicion". Now, how do we handle white people who are in the country illegally? Oh, that's right, we don't worry about them.

The country entered a recession and Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck etc. needed to blame someone other than white men. Therefore suddenly "illegals" jumped to the top of the list of problems. It's such a joke. The impact caused by "illegal Hispanics" is minimal compared to problems like the US dollar going down the toilet, the war in Iraq, and the war in Afghanistan.

If you had dark skin you would understand how degrading this law is. Nangiggles had better carry her papers if she ever goes to AZ or risk going to jail.
 
A lot of people shit on the AZ law, but most of those people haven't even read it (do it sometime.. it's very short compared to most governmental bs.)

It's only a STATE law and it's less harsh than most COUNTRIES policies.

The United States Supreme court has upheld the right of Fed law enforcement to request proof of citizenship/status without cause. The Arizona law is far more protective of civil rights. I'm a cracker and I've been stopped by TPD and asked for my ID while walking down the street....they ran my id for warrants and apologized for the inconvenience and I continued my run. Should I file a lawsuit for racial profiling of German-Americans?
 
LOL @ "it's not about race". There's only one race that will be affected by this law. What is the police procedure for "suspecting" that someone is in the country illegally? All Hispanic immigrants are required to carry proof that they are here legally. What happens when cops arrest legal citizens for "suspicion" and takes them to jail? What if they are Hispanics that were born here and the cops take them to jail over their "suspicion". Now, how do we handle white people who are in the country illegally? Oh, that's right, we don't worry about them.

The country entered a recession and Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck etc. needed to blame someone other than white men. Therefore suddenly "illegals" jumped to the top of the list of problems. It's such a joke. The impact caused by "illegal Hispanics" is minimal compared to problems like the US dollar going down the toilet, the war in Iraq, and the war in Afghanistan.

If you had dark skin you would understand how degrading this law is. Nangiggles had better carry her papers if she ever goes to AZ or risk going to jail.

i dont think illegal immagration is as minute as you are implying. ever been to arizona? or southern cali? its fucking hell and these fucks are causing crime and not supporting our economy in anyway. if canadians started flooding over here for whatever reason and were working under the table and destroying local economies id be just as mad.

there is also a whole other side of this. if you wanna come here illegally and work for cash fine. whatever we cant really trace you. But who the fuck thinks its ok for our tax paying dollars to support these people. welfare. bitches having 10 kids and just soaking up our funds. why should we give them support in anyway?? because its the right thing to do? itd be the right thing to do to take care of our own first. plenty of porverty all over the usa. lots of lower class americans not getting any gov aid living horrible lives. doesnt matter the race, if you are legal you should get help before you give an illegal immagrant money to live on and fucking credit cards.
 
LOL @ "it's not about race". There's only one race that will be affected by this law. What is the police procedure for "suspecting" that someone is in the country illegally? All Hispanic immigrants are required to carry proof that they are here legally. What happens when cops arrest legal citizens for "suspicion" and takes them to jail? What if they are Hispanics that were born here and the cops take them to jail over their "suspicion". Now, how do we handle white people who are in the country illegally? Oh, that's right, we don't worry about them.

The country entered a recession and Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck etc. needed to blame someone other than white men. Therefore suddenly "illegals" jumped to the top of the list of problems. It's such a joke. The impact caused by "illegal Hispanics" is minimal compared to problems like the US dollar going down the toilet, the war in Iraq, and the war in Afghanistan.

If you had dark skin you would understand how degrading this law is. Nangiggles had better carry her papers if she ever goes to AZ or risk going to jail.

hahah, someone must be illegal.
yeah i know, so racist to ask someone for ID when they are already pulled over.
hopefully one day you'll get to teach the evil white man, and conquer his lands so you can run everything just like awesome mexico.
untill then, you've got our laws to abide by. don't like them?
then pack you are your illegal family up and head back to mexico please we are sick of your whining
 
gorilla you might as well delete this account and start over.
i will bomb you till you leave, this board has no need for pedo illegal racists
dictating how america should be.
 
gorilla you might as well delete this account and start over.
i will bomb you till you leave, this board has no need for pedo illegal racists
dictating how america should be.

You're the only one on here, trying to dictate, while screaming bloody murder. Relax. The state of Arizona dropped the ball allowing harrassment of any kind through. Singling out "1" type of people isn't the best way to go about things. Allowing this will only create hate and for people to divide. It's easy for non-hispanic's to join up because it don't effect them. Like me, I'd get upset if I got pulled over once a day and was asked to show proof. I think it's bullshit. You know very well, racist will take full advantage of such a law to harrass others. This is what this is. The same state that wanted to do away with martin luther king's day. Yea, this state has some hidden racist agenda.
 
You're the only one on here, trying to dictate, while screaming bloody murder. Relax. The state of Arizona dropped the ball allowing harrassment of any kind through. Singling out "1" type of people isn't the best way to go about things. Allowing this will only create hate and for people to divide. It's easy for non-hispanic's to join up because it don't effect them. Like me, I'd get upset if I got pulled over once a day and was asked to show proof. I think it's bullshit. You know very well, racist will take full advantage of such a law to harrass others. This is what this is. The same state that wanted to do away with martin luther king's day. Yea, this state has some hidden racist agenda.

lets just say you were right about arizonas racist agenda. look at the statistics and figures in that particular state. can you blame them.

it comes down to this. these illegals are just that. illegal. they have no rights in this country. they do not deserve gov aid, not even a cent. and they dont deserve financial gain in this country without paying the same taxes we do. 5 bucks an hour isnt that bad when you pay nothing on that money and all your bills are paid for by the gov. arizona is simply enforcing the laws that were set by our gov. this isnt a free for all. if arizona wants to be able to ask people for papers then so be it. if you dont like it then gtfo..


laws a are laws. this country shouldnt be run by hippies who want to be able to whatever they want.

the law to be able to drink in this country is 21. so should anyone over 21 be pissed that they have to show their id to prove they are 21. is this discrimination? its a simple thing but its not that much different. if you are living in a area where there are tons of illegals, you should know that you are gonna have to be able to prove you are legit. because we need to get the illegals out.
 
I dont like to get into law, politics, religion, abortion, etc However being of latin background I must say I dont give a rats ass if a cop asks for my ID, If I have nothing to hide I show it PERIOD, most Americans (not all) are too damn politically correct and sensitive, everything is a damn violation of your rights..... jeez....
 
I dont like to get into law, politics, religion, abortion, etc However being of latin background I must say I dont give a rats ass if a cop asks for my ID, If I have nothing to hide I show it PERIOD, most Americans (not all) are too damn politically correct and sensitive, everything is a damn violation of your rights..... jeez....

thats what im saying. this country has a lot to offer and if you are gonna bitch about things like this you are welcome to leave. arizona is on the mexican border. how is it racist to target mexicans. if it were a different country on our border we would be targeting them. plain and simple.
 
LOL @ "it's not about race". There's only one race that will be affected by this law. What is the police procedure for "suspecting" that someone is in the country illegally? All Hispanic immigrants are required to carry proof that they are here legally. What happens when cops arrest legal citizens for "suspicion" and takes them to jail? What if they are Hispanics that were born here and the cops take them to jail over their "suspicion". Now, how do we handle white people who are in the country illegally? Oh, that's right, we don't worry about them.

The country entered a recession and Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck etc. needed to blame someone other than white men. Therefore suddenly "illegals" jumped to the top of the list of problems. It's such a joke. The impact caused by "illegal Hispanics" is minimal compared to problems like the US dollar going down the toilet, the war in Iraq, and the war in Afghanistan.

If you had dark skin you would understand how degrading this law is. Nangiggles had better carry her papers if she ever goes to AZ or risk going to jail.

Something tells me you're not seeing the big picture. Not that illegal Hispanics are worse than any other illegals. The thing is though they make up the vast majority. Ask anyone in the southwest who is causing the most social disruption in their neighborhoods. I can't blame them for wanting to leave their poor country, but their way of life simply doesn't mesh with American society as it should be. They have to assimilate and play by our rules but often instead just piss all over them. Same goes for citizens. The thing is that now even illegals are somehow acquiring "rights" in this country that have a negative impact on hard working, tax paying citizens and who in their right mind would want to put up with that.
 
Why you bringing up you should pay for illegals? I am someking of advocate now? Being assholes isn't the way to go about things is all Im saying. The way people act with you dosen't always translate to the way others are treated. It's not about sensitivity. You allow someone to take one right from you they will want to take others too. It won't stop there it begins there. I'll never allow or be okay with being stopped just because my skin color. I don't even look like I come from Mexico, but some racist shit tard can and will take advantage of being able to harrass even US citizens of hispanic background. You cant deny that. Racism of anykind is prohibited and people like myself will exercise our right not to be subjected to such acts. The anwser is no here.
 
its against the law for you to be stopped soley on the color of your skin. thats not what the law states. it says if you commit a crime and are stopped by the police they can also look into if you are legal. there arent going to be checkpoints and shit.
 
its against the law for you to be stopped soley on the color of your skin. thats not what the law states. it says if you commit a crime and are stopped by the police they can also look into if you are legal. there arent going to be checkpoints and shit.

There is a hole in the law. They can stop people and make up they stopped me cause I was speeding, even if I didn't. With a statement like that it cover's up any hidden agenda. If you get stopped and you did a serious crime like a DUI then they should be checked for citzenship. Check the misfits and criminals not the good ones just to give them a hardtime. This is why this law is open to an endless debate.
 
its like that for any minority. black people think everytime they are stopped its for "driving while black". I too have plenty of experience with police harrasment. i drag race a civic. its gutted out, 4 point harnesses and its super loud. I get stopped all the time for shit. its really annoying but theres nothing i can do. to them im a target, and i know this. so i try not to break any laws when i drive the car to the track or meets or whatever. i get followed home all the time, tell me about my exhaust or lack thereof.

but i deal with it, they have a job to do. if i dont like it i can move to another country. there is nothing wrong with hunting illegals that are destroying towns and economies if you ask me. but there is no illegal alien radar invented yet so how are they supposed to know whos who?
 
its like that for any minority. black people think everytime they are stopped its for "driving while black". I too have plenty of experience with police harrasment. i drag race a civic. its gutted out, 4 point harnesses and its super loud. I get stopped all the time for shit. its really annoying but theres nothing i can do. to them im a target, and i know this. so i try not to break any laws when i drive the car to the track or meets or whatever. i get followed home all the time, tell me about my exhaust or lack thereof.

but i deal with it, they have a job to do. if i dont like it i can move to another country. there is nothing wrong with hunting illegals that are destroying towns and economies if you ask me. but there is no illegal alien radar invented yet so how are they supposed to know whos who?

Picking the auto you are gonna buy is a choice. The color of my skin wasn't. It's not the same bro.
 
There is a hole in the law. They can stop people and make up they stopped me cause I was speeding, even if I didn't. With a statement like that it cover's up any hidden agenda. If you get stopped and you did a serious crime like a DUI then they should be checked for citzenship. Check the misfits and criminals not the good ones just to give them a hardtime. This is why this law is open to an endless debate.
the law doesn't say the cops can make up a reason to pull you over. as i said before, you should all read the bill rather than going on what the media is reporting. either way, you don't think that shit was happening before? people get pulled over for BS reasons all the time.
 
Picking the auto you are gonna buy is a choice. The color of my skin wasn't. It's not the same bro.

Im just saying people deal with things all the time that arent "fair" in their minds. thats one thing i deal with. I can bring up many downsides to being white. look how fucked up our college systems have become with admitting minorities. being a white male in america is no longer where u wanna be in many aspects. the Univ of mich lawsuit is a great example.


Its a fine line i do agree with you and trust me i see your point 100%. and i see your fear of being harrassed. but on the other side what do you think we should do. there are 100's of thousands of illegals that shouldnt be here and need to leave. thats a fact. they are a drain to our economy. either we convert them to legal and they start paying taxes or they gtfo. can you suggest a better alternative. i think arizona is in a bind and there is never gonna be a perfect way of fixing this.
 
Other than opening your wallet and showin an Id that takes a couple of minutes of your time how does it affect you? dont you think it's a decent price to pay to make sure than many illegal immigrants get stopped? and dont get me wrong I'm not even talking mexicans, some salvatruchas and mareros from central america are WAY worse than mexicans, I lived in LA for a while and I saw for myself that most people in dangerous gangs raising hell and havoc are from Latin background... it may be racist for some to get stopped by the color of your skin but it is what it is... again it's only a couple of minutes of your time and it helps fight crime, it is not the best plan but it will probably work....
 
I'm never gonna say yes. I don't care what you guys say. Like I said before, people will abuse this new bill to harrass a certain type of people. Red, I'm happy you can realize that discrimnation does happen by pulling other's just because of color or more there of. Just like drugs it won't stop maybe you need to deal with that. I want to win the lotto too, but that isn't happening either. This will always be an issue.
 
i like aztecwarrior and i hate when issues like this cause a wedge.
so i'm gonna leave this one alone and bite my tounge, out of respect for aztec.
 
I'm never gonna say yes. I don't care what you guys say. Like I said before, people will abuse this new bill to harrass a certain type of people. Red, I'm happy you can realize that discrimnation does happen by pulling other's just because of color or more there of. Just like drugs it won't stop maybe you need to deal with that. I want to win the lotto too, but that isn't happening either. This will always be an issue.

Well, what would you recommend as an effective alternative?
 
Someone needs to capitalize on this and make a knock off of the Oregon Tail game called the Arizona Trail.

First, name the people in your party (sorry, have to cap it at 4 people per party).

Next choose your profession: House Cleaning, Landscaping, or Cook.

Buy Supplies: Shoes, clothes, spare clothes, trash bag.

Finally, hit the trail...
 
Fuck em, the government can ask for anyones ID at anytime and if that means less illegals flowing in then so be it. I have to show my ID all the time and im not crying about it.
 
Someone needs to capitalize on this and make a knock off of the Oregon Tail game called the Arizona Trail.

First, name the people in your party (sorry, have to cap it at 4 people per party).

Next choose your profession: House Cleaning, Landscaping, or Cook.

Buy Supplies: Shoes, clothes, spare clothes, trash bag.

Finally, hit the trail...

lol i love you man
 
I'm never gonna say yes. I don't care what you guys say. Like I said before, people will abuse this new bill to harrass a certain type of people. Red, I'm happy you can realize that discrimnation does happen by pulling other's just because of color or more there of. Just like drugs it won't stop maybe you need to deal with that. I want to win the lotto too, but that isn't happening either. This will always be an issue.

If we get to read terrible consequences into bills that clearly state otherwise, can I decide the new health care bill will require the execution of every first-born male child?
 
Fuck em, the government can ask for anyones ID at anytime and if that means less illegals flowing in then so be it. I have to show my ID all the time and im not crying about it.
Exactly, they are asking you to show an ID boo hoo... it doesnt take over a couple of minutes and it prevents crime....
 
If we were having the problem of huge numbers of illegal canadians streaming in and North Dakota wrote the exact same law I would have no problem with it. Would people be crying that we are singling out canadians unfairly then? I dont think so. It just so happens illegals coming in from Mexico we all know are definetely not looking like canadians but tough shit thats the way it is. The racial profiling aspect is a coincidental necessity for the enforcement of the law. We profile all the time, when was the last time you saw an APB put out for a suspect that didnt include race? Well, I think we should stop that obviously racist pattern since it unfairly singles out blacks. LOL
 
Well, what would you recommend as an effective alternative?

Already anwsered it. There is no alternative at this time. It's like the war on drugs it can't be stopped. We can't change what this country was founded on all of a sudden. Aren't you Canadian bro?
 
Already anwsered it. There is no alternative at this time. It's like the war on drugs it can't be stopped. We can't change what this country was founded on all of a sudden. Aren't you Canadian bro?

No. My wife was born in Canada. She immigrated here legally.

And you actually can stop illegal immigration or at least curb it MUCH more than drug use.
 
Other than opening your wallet and showin an Id that takes a couple of minutes of your time how does it affect you? dont you think it's a decent price to pay to make sure than many illegal immigrants get stopped?.

You go to jail if you don't have your ID with you.

Having a few illegal Mexicans is a small price to pay to keep our FREEDOM. I want my country back.
 
You go to jail if you don't have your ID with you.

Having a few illegal Mexicans is a small price to pay to keep our FREEDOM. I want my country back.

I love it. You're ok with some people getting half of their income confiscated by the government but you're against them being forced to flash a driver's license?

God bless the USA. I blame the educational system.
 
I love it. You're ok with some people getting half of their income confiscated by the government but you're against them being forced to flash a driver's license?

God bless the USA. I blame the educational system.

Huh? Where did I mention taxes? I don't see that in any of my posts on this thread. Can you read? I blame the educational system.

Since you want to talk taxes, are you against paying taxes which pay the police to harass Mexicans?
 
Huh? Where did I mention taxes? I don't see that in any of my posts on this thread. Can you read? I blame the educational system.

Since you want to talk taxes, are you against paying taxes which pay the police to harass Mexicans?

I'll gladly pay taxes to keep illegal aliens out of the country.

You're against being forced to flash an ID. That costs virtually nothing.

In the name of getting your country back, what is a fair % of a person's income to confiscate via the IRS?
 
gorillahung if you want your country back move back to your
ancesteral land.
lotsa good peeps waiting to get a citizenship here, your
absence would open up a spot
thanks
 
No. My wife was born in Canada. She immigrated here legally.

And you actually can stop illegal immigration or at least curb it MUCH more than drug use.

Actually illegal drug use would also diminish as a result of curtailing illegal immigration. Of course that's not the sole source of drug trafficking but it'd be a great start.
 
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