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chance of death?
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needtogetaas
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qman04 said:
As your first cycle most people say you should do just run the test to see how your body reacts and your next cycle yo should run test and deca. As for how much on 250mgs or 500mgs that is really up to you because there are alot of different opinions on this. But I can say that I have seen people on their first cycle grow from just 250mgs of sust 250 a week but i don't know about test e.
trowsersnake98
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i got some kick ass gains from 250 test and 200 primo.qman04 said:
DonCorleone562
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shaz29 said:
IMO, I wouldnt waste my first cycle on only 250mg of anything. As many of us know, your 1st cycle is generally the best. I'd up it a bit, 500mg. Proper PCT and AI throughout....KICK ASS GAINS. Run it for 10-12 weeks.
gabulldogs02
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My buddy gained 20 lbs off of 250mg of sust a week. i believe quadsweep gained 20lbs off a small cycle of test as well. Your diet will determine how much you grow.
shaz29 said:
if you're in good health and don't have any predispositions to hbp or heart disease, or anything else medical wise, I don't really think you'll die from a cycle of deca and test e. I would maybe consider to get some blood work done just to be on the safe side before the cyclel starts.
shaz29 said:
Umm... well, you see, the statistical chance of one popping a vessel in the brain is determined by a probability density function depending on the number of degrees of freedom, as demonstrated by the function
which pretty much gives you the exact numerical probability of dying by a steroid-induced brain aneurysm.
(In all seriousness -- no, it's highly unlikely, and instances where it might have been recorded undoubtedly include other factors leading to such a condition.)
ISHTH
chazk
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DonCorleone562 said:
I went from 135 to 170 natural working out in one year ..then did a cycle of 200mg of deca and 20mg if dbol shot up to 190 ended up staying around 185 after that for a long time
I'm 5'8
eazy gain of 15lbs so never underestimate the power of a fist cycle being low dosed sum guys blow up off a cycle like your planning and some dont.If you do that great if you dont then raise the dose your next cycle
DonCorleone562
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chazk said:
I'm not saying that 250mg wont do the trick. It is his first cycle, 500mg would give him much better results with about the same sides. First cycle results are something special. I'd still go with 500mg/week.
Man, I was really expecting more brain-popping sarcasm in this thread.
Personally, I'd go with a 1:1 or higher ratio of nandrolone:testosterone. I'm a firm believer in test as a solid base for any cycle, especially for one's first. I wouldn't recommend getting too close to the 1g/week mark, either -- if your diet and training are on-par, you'll see great results.
It's not about how much you take, but rather optimizing the smallest amounts you need to achieve your goals.
Personally, I'd go with a 1:1 or higher ratio of nandrolone:testosterone. I'm a firm believer in test as a solid base for any cycle, especially for one's first. I wouldn't recommend getting too close to the 1g/week mark, either -- if your diet and training are on-par, you'll see great results.
It's not about how much you take, but rather optimizing the smallest amounts you need to achieve your goals.
BigBlu
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shaz29 said:
In my opinion ZERO. I bet all the 'experts' that have been telling the horror stories about juice have never touched it in their lives. Don't listen to that kinda bullshit.
I have never met anyone that ended up dying from steroids OR that developed a terminal illness from them.
Go ahead and do your first cycle and approach it with positivity and common sense. This is an awesome board for questions and assistance. I see a few bros have recommended some good first time Test/Deca dosages for you.
Good luck and enjoy your course.
bigthrower
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a sudden death? no i don't think so, maybe years and years pf crazy abuse, but it is the same for drink!!
DonCorleone562 said:
Your reasoning is correct but your conclusion is wrong.
Because a first cycle is the one which people react best to there's LESS reason to use higher dosages.
It's like thinking that taking 4 aspirin for a headache will make your head feel REALLY good!
How can you possibly say a double dosage of something will have the same level of side effects? That's just not true.
Get a feel for what setroids can do. It's always better to underdo it than overdo it. And see which supps can increase the effectiveness of certain drugs before upping the dosage. You'd be surprised.
solidspine
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Chances of dying on a deca and test cycle, with fundamental gear, diet, training, anti-e and pct knowledge.
You have more chance of being struck by a meteor from another galaxy then dying on that cycle.
You have more chance of being struck by a meteor from another galaxy then dying on that cycle.
chazk
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to much testosterone can cuase brain cells to die .But what exactly is to much testosterone..I Have meet a few heavey dosed roid users that just kinda stare off into space but they could just be ignoring their wifes
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shaz29 said:
In my opinion, yes. There's so many new post-cycle things out there that I don't even know what's what anymore. I'm sure there'll be plenty of people to say such-and-such is good for what have you, but I think all you need is clomid and nolvadex... the other stuff is good to try out and get a feel for when you're better able to read your body, but for the first few cycles, just stick with the basics.
digit0x
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samoth said:In my opinion, yes. There's so many new post-cycle things out there that I don't even know what's what anymore. I'm sure there'll be plenty of people to say such-and-such is good for what have you, but I think all you need is clomid and nolvadex... the other stuff is good to try out and get a feel for when you're better able to read your body, but for the first few cycles, just stick with the basics.
nolva and clomid? i've read that concurrent use can have negative effects. or are you just saying nolva during clomid pct?
digit0x said:
Depends on what you're doing. Usually just clomid for post-cycle, and nolvadex either during a heavy cycle or just to have on hand in case things start to feel bad during cycle. I know things have changed a lot in recent years, but I see no reason why these shouldn't be the basis for a beginner or intermediate without tons of extra cash to spend on all these new post-cycle supplements.
solidspine
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And dead brains cells screw up your ability to spell correctly in the English language.
digit0x
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samoth said:Depends on what you're doing. Usually just clomid for post-cycle, and nolvadex either during a heavy cycle or just to have on hand in case things start to feel bad during cycle. I know things have changed a lot in recent years, but I see no reason why these shouldn't be the basis for a beginner or intermediate without tons of extra cash to spend on all these new post-cycle supplements.
well encouraging words for me, as i am in the limited funds boat.
pitbullrocco
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you never know. you could slip on a dropped needle cap while trying to stick your glute and fall on the floor stabbing the pin into your heart. its all odds.
by the way, take all the aas you want and not eat enough = waste.
by the way, take all the aas you want and not eat enough = waste.
perp69
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Well, I suppose if you are injecting in the kitchen and flinch and bump into your wife/girlfriend who happens to be hold a fillet knife that she was using cut up some chicken for dinner then yes you may die or at the very least get salmonella. But other than something like that I think will probably be ok.
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