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caught one of these today...red touch yellow kill a fellow.

Creepusmaximus said:
dallasmike said:
Snakes arent angry, dont attack people, and to my knowledge dont have the ability to ask questions, be it first or even later.

cottonmouths have a reputation as being aggressive snakes. However, in tests designed to measure the suite of behavioral responses by free-ranging cottonmouths to encounters with humans, 51 percent of the test subjects tried to escape and 78 percent used threat displays or other defensive tactics. Only when the snakes were picked up with a mechanical hand were they likely to bite. [9]


First off have you ever dealt with these snakes on a day to day basis? I do. Any day I may run into them. My house is on a 13 acre bass pond that leads to wetlands. Cottonmouths aren't a problem for an adult who is watching what they're do. That's the problem. One day I flipped over a kayak and there was a 6 footer under it. I'm right over the snake and he's surprised. I jump, he jumps and there we are. Let's say I was looking somewhere else or talking to someone. Most likely I would have been bitten. You can say he's just defending himself by getting into attack position but he still wants to get me if he can. I have a big rat snake that I run into once in a while and he simply heads in the other direction as soon as he see me. I'm fine with him, he kills things I don't need around.

It's like alligators, I don't think they're very dangerous because I know what to look for. On the hand we've had two people killed by alligators this year, close by. There again you do the wrong thing and you may be dead. Hate to say I'm pro people. I also have small childern and there clueless. That scares me. I have two dogs I send out with the kids and an outdoor cat that's job is to kill snakes. The dogs will find animals long before the kids will and the cat is good at copperhead removal.


First off, yes I have worked with many, many cottonmouths over the thirteen years I was collecting venom samples for the labratory that produces the antivenom that saves the lives and limbs of people who live on bass farms and dont fully understand the biology of the animals they are displacing. I have never seen one attack, nor would I expect any animal to purposely endanger itself with intentional exposure to a much larger, much more dangerous, weapon weilding predator. Now i dont have your extensive background in the field of herpetology and maybe I should have just bought a farm (no pun intended) in place of all the research I have done with venomous snakes, since you seem to have experienced some behavior in these animals, that is as of yet, unknown to science.
Snakes dont jump, and six feet would be record size for a cottonmouth. The snake doesnt "want" to get you, the only thing he "wants" to do is not be killed .
If I was worried about my kids wandering through the habitat of venomous snakes, I would move out of the habitat of venomous snakes. I am sure you are doing your best to kill all the snakes you find and are probably severly hurting populations of native snakes, but the fact is no matter how badly you wish to turn cottonmouth habitat into children safe habitat, in the end only total destruction of every single suitible living environment within say a good ten miles would make that happen. The good news is your local walmart or other strip mall may make all your dreams come true some day soon.
 
Yikes! I hate snakes I would have ran like the wind away from that thing. Freaks me out just seeing pics of snakes.
 
FISHTALES said:
aggressive/dangerous-no

deadliest-yes
http://www.thetravelalmanac.com/lists/snakes.htm

western diamond back has the highest bite count, but coral snakes venom is more deadly.

yes, that is correct sir. ( in my best Ed McMahon voice )
deadliest to me meant "the one which makes more people dead than the others", but your exactly right....
 
PICK3 said:
Wished I've seen as many snakes and gators as y'all.

I only worked in the swamps of S.E. Louisiana for over a decade.

hey Pick, when your eatin' bugs, you suck the head? :-)
 
FISHTALES said:
pick3 :Pwned by java :chomp:

hey, Fish, when you say "bass farm", are you talking about raising small bass for restocking? Here, we have catfish farms, they are raised for the meat. I ass-u-me that there are the fry farms and such for catfish too, but I was just wondering...
 
dallasmike said:
First off, yes I have worked with many, many cottonmouths over the thirteen years I was collecting venom samples for the labratory that produces the antivenom that saves the lives and limbs of people who live on bass farms and dont fully understand the biology of the animals they are displacing. I have never seen one attack, nor would I expect any animal to purposely endanger itself with intentional exposure to a much larger, much more dangerous, weapon weilding predator. Now i dont have your extensive background in the field of herpetology and maybe I should have just bought a farm (no pun intended) in place of all the research I have done with venomous snakes, since you seem to have experienced some behavior in these animals, that is as of yet, unknown to science.
Snakes dont jump, and six feet would be record size for a cottonmouth. The snake doesnt "want" to get you, the only thing he "wants" to do is not be killed .
If I was worried about my kids wandering through the habitat of venomous snakes, I would move out of the habitat of venomous snakes. I am sure you are doing your best to kill all the snakes you find and are probably severly hurting populations of native snakes, but the fact is no matter how badly you wish to turn cottonmouth habitat into children safe habitat, in the end only total destruction of every single suitible living environment within say a good ten miles would make that happen. The good news is your local walmart or other strip mall may make all your dreams come true some day soon.

Great I can move to down town Savannah and worry about the public housing people. I would much rather play with the snakes. Anyways most of where I live was dense timberland and not much was living in it. The ponds etc. (man made) have made a good environment for them. If we weren't here the snakes wouldn't be here. So if we make a breeding area and kill off some of them, are the snakes worse off then not having a breeding environment? Same with the gators. You can get a hunting license for alligators now because there is nothing endangered about them. They've been multiplying for years and are in every fresh water area.

BTW the big ones come out of swamp. If 6 ft is close to a record I need to go out with my camera. Also he didn't jump literally, he just shot his head and did the open mouth thing at me. I didn't have a weapon and he went back into the water somewhere and is probably still out there somewhere.

Remember the alligator hunter loved playing with dangerous animals and he's dead now. There are people up in the hills that dance with snakes, many of them die too. If you want to fool around with them, have a good time of yourself.
 
txbondsman said:
hey, Fish, when you say "bass farm", are you talking about raising small bass for restocking? Here, we have catfish farms, they are raised for the meat. I ass-u-me that there are the fry farms and such for catfish too, but I was just wondering...
that was the other dood, no bass farm for me
 
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