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Cardio and heart damage with AS

Taomaster

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The heart is a muscle. It has been shown that it can grow with AS. I have a theory that the less cardio during a AS cycle, the better, so that the heart does not enlarge. There are many reported cases of bodybuilders with enlarged hearts. I wonder if cardio has been a contribution in their problem.
I have been limiting cardio to off-cycle only times to cut up, but the problem is THAT is when the catabolism is greatest. The catabolic control loop is stimulated by endurance type long-duration exercise. I take Clen during off-cycle also, to combat the catabolism, but Clen is has been shown to create heart problems in some individuals also (another topic).
Anyways, I want the opinion of some seasons guys here. Cardio bad for the heart or not during a cycle?
 
In studies comparing both AS using and natural weight trainers both groups had left ventrical hypertrophy indicating that it is likely due to a drastic increase in blood pressure during intense weight training that is responsible for LVH.
 
Beezers said:
In studies comparing both AS using and natural weight trainers both groups had left ventrical hypertrophy indicating that it is likely due to a drastic increase in blood pressure during intense weight training that is responsible for LVH.

I've read this before, also. Taomaster, do not forget that the heart is not comprised of skeletal muscle and does not have the same saturation of androgenic receptors.
 
i tend to agree with the guys but from a little different pov.

even in athletes with "enlarged hearts" (not as users) it takes years of training to happen.

i'm pretty sure that reasonable cardio (20-30 min 3-5x/week) would not be bad even during a cycle, but i think i'm alone on this point. it just doesn't make sense to me that 25 minutes of cardio exherts such a profound effect when you're loaded up with juice round the clock.
 
I don't see enough evidence to support this claim...I believe cardio should be incorporated in every workout, even if it's just a 10min run to warm up. The heart is our engine and needs a little workout itelf to keep it strong.
 
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