Carb Cycling & AAS?

[cobracock1979]

Tim sounds good,

I feel awesome + big after a carb bulk and flaccid on 0 carbs.

Rodney - the only problem with one day ) carbs is that I wont attain Ketosis.

 

[sho3]

How do you take in zero carbs, even protein powder has a few carbs? What are your meals for the zero carb days?

 

[cobracock1979]

By zero we are talking sub 30. Any carbs that are take in are low GI, ie almonds

 

[sho3]

By zero we are talking sub 30. Any carbs that are take in are low GI, ie almonds

Gotcha. I'd like to hear more about this, in the last 8 weeks I've went from 270lbs to 230lbs by taking in around 100-150 carbs a day. But I seem to be stuck at this weight, thinking of trying carb cycling. Can you give me a example of how your meals would be on the zero days? Thanks.

Cycle:
Tren 125mg eod
Prop 100mg eod
ECA
Clen

 

[cobracock1979]

Day 1-3 - No carbs


7am - Whey protein shake + Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter + 10mg Flax caps + 5mg fish oil

9am - chicken breast

11am - 50g almonds

1am - 150g beef + tbs NPB

3 pm - salmon fillet

5 pm - 50g almonds + whey shake

TRAIN (10g Arganine)

7pm - PWO Whey protein shake + 10g BCAA + 10g Glutamine

7.30 - chicken breast + vegetable (brocolli etc)

9.30 - 6 boiled eggs (3 yokes) + 50g almonds

11am - Whey shake + Tbsp NPB + 10mg Flax caps (its good to add these oils before bed as they act as a time release for the protein while you sleep).



Day 4 - CARB UP....


-Eat high levels of carbs with Low GI (ie yams/ pasta/ noodles) for 12 hours. Cut the fats on this day as it will be stored.
-NO FRUITS/ FRUCTOSE - this will replace glygogen in the liver and stop ketosis for an extra day or so.
-Start loading after a heavy workout - the aim is to deplete the muscles af glycogen before loading.



I think Im gonna change and have the 3rd day moderate carbs and the 4th day carb load

 

[sho3]

Thanks Bro. I'll give it a try.

 

[timtim]

Thanks Bro. I'll give it a try.

make sure your getting at least 20 grams of omega 3's from fish oil or udos choice oil a day.

 

[bigjd69]

Is it better to start a Ketosis Diet prior to adding any Anabolics and once you start the Anabolics to cycle carbs or to stick with the Ketosis Diet throughout?

 

[SaladFork]

Good thread, lots of good info... thx~

 

[Burpees]

Day 1-3 - No carbs


7am - Whey protein shake + Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter + 10mg Flax caps + 5mg fish oil

9am - chicken breast

11am - 50g almonds

1am - 150g beef + tbs NPB

3 pm - salmon fillet

5 pm - 50g almonds + whey shake

TRAIN (10g Arganine)

7pm - PWO Whey protein shake + 10g BCAA + 10g Glutamine

7.30 - chicken breast + vegetable (brocolli etc)

9.30 - 6 boiled eggs (3 yokes) + 50g almonds

11am - Whey shake + Tbsp NPB + 10mg Flax caps (its good to add these oils before bed as they act as a time release for the protein while you sleep).



Day 4 - CARB UP....


-Eat high levels of carbs with Low GI (ie yams/ pasta/ noodles) for 12 hours. Cut the fats on this day as it will be stored.
-NO FRUITS/ FRUCTOSE - this will replace glygogen in the liver and stop ketosis for an extra day or so.
-Start loading after a heavy workout - the aim is to deplete the muscles af glycogen before loading.



I think Im gonna change and have the 3rd day moderate carbs and the 4th day carb load

What are you using for BCAA/EAA, I'm looking for something with no stimulants. You do this 'diet' for 2 days, then load up on the 3rd? How much fat on the carb days, minimal? I assume on the low carb days you try to hit 90-100g of fat? The calories make a big jump like that..think it hinders fat loss, or promotes growth?

I need to do something, I'm up 10lbs and lost my abs, and I'm on Tren? Wtf.. I am eating a ridiculous amount more of carbs and I think I'm a weee bit bloated from the Cyp..

Also, are bro's hitting very high fats on no carb days - are you aimong for ketosis?

It takes me 24 hours now to hit keto which gives me 48 hours of fat burning in a 4 day period.

I keep my fats at 50-60 every day, protein at 300, and carbs currently at 300 also.. When I was watching my carbs, it was 50-60 fat 400 protein, and 100-150 of carbs and that came from my fat/protein sources and mostly fruit. Works well for me actually.