can you lose BF and gain LBM at the same time?

[Makavelli]

when you mentioned bodyopus, i googled it because i have no idea what it was. one of the links that came up had lyle mcdonald's name on it. he basically said that bodyopus is a CKD.

unless youre saying to google it because it does build muscle even though its low carbs?

Bodyopus is a CKD. Bodyopus is one of the best, if not the best, diet books out. It is a little outdated, but the nutrition info is still relevant. Duchaine was da man...

Done correctly a CKD will allow one to lose fat and build muscle at the same time. Natural or not. It's the only diet I've seen do this with natural athletes.

 

[bighen58]

Bodyopus is a CKD. Bodyopus is one of the best, if not the best, diet books out. It is a little outdated, but the nutrition info is still relevant. Duchaine was da man...

Done correctly a CKD will allow one to lose fat and build muscle at the same time. Natural or not. It's the only diet I've seen do this with natural athletes.

I agree 100%. I've used the BodyOpus diet (natural) with great results. I think I bought my copy on Amazon.com if you're looking for a copy.

Here's a link...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/09...104-1975928-0079161?n=507846&s=books&v=glance

 

[slat1]

Yep....that's about how it's going for me. I'm at 6% right now, and I can't gain shit. Do you have to be fat to gain muscle or what?

Post up some pictures! I am just starting to diet down and 6% is my goal. It would motivate the hell out of me!!!

 

[Gumaro]

bodyopus sounds good actually.

what would you guys do in my position? ive only done two cycles of test/tren in the past. last one was in 04. at 5'10, 15% BF, 190lbs (last two are a rough guess), would you try to lose the BF naturally and do a lean cycle in the summer or use the AAS now to try to gain LBM and lose BF?

 

[Makavelli]

bodyopus sounds good actually.

what would you guys do in my position? ive only done two cycles of test/tren in the past. last one was in 04. at 5'10, 15% BF, 190lbs (last two are a rough guess), would you try to lose the BF naturally and do a lean cycle in the summer or use the AAS now to try to gain LBM and lose BF?

Get down to 10% and then start the cycle. I've done more research and experimentation with CKD's than anyone I know. Seriously. I did it for 9 months straight once... . Yeah, I'm fucked up like that. Anyway I've found that it works wonders until you get down to about 8% BF. At that point I would switch to high protein, mod fat, and low carb. That will get you down another couple % to 6.

 

[krishna]

Post up some pictures! I am just starting to diet down and 6% is my goal. It would motivate the hell out of me!!!

Will do Slat1. I just have to shave my upper body first. I was planning on taking some anyway. Was actually going to do it this weekend, but never got around to it.

 

[itlnstln]

I am planning on starting a CKD, but before I do I just have (1) simple question...............How well does this diet work with a good cycle (12-15 week one)

It seems most people that are benefitting from this type of diet are "naturals" - but can I pack on LBM while eating/training this way while on gear???

Any help would be much appreciated.

ItlnStln

 

[itlnstln]

PS - I was just asking cause' i was about to order the e-book version of "Ultimate Diet 2.0"

 

[itlnstln]

fuk-it - I'll just buy it and check it out..........I've been "thread searching" for 2 hours on the topic

 

[vanilagorilla]

Certainly you can...but generally most peoples body's are inclined to do one or the other, not lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. That's why most guys choose off season to bulk and precontest to diet/cut up. Other critical factors: age, RX program, genetics, workout variables, cardio, diet, lifestyle, etc. The better you become at dialing these things in (usually by trial and error-cuz everyone's different) the sooner you'll be able to master your ability to get whatever look you're striving for. Oh yeah, eat lots of pussy. I think that helps a lot.

But shave it first if it's not already that can be half the fun.