Can you guys take a look at my 1st cycle?

[BigAndy69]

maybe it just looks crazy cuz I got it all together...but I doubt that 500mg of test and 400mg of EQ a week is over kill at all. Here I'll seperate it..

Test 1-10 @ 500mg/wk
EQ 1-10 @ 400/wk
D bol 1-4 @ 30-35/ed

Anti's
Arimidex beginning to end @ .5 e/d
Nolv @ 20mg pct
clomid 100/100/50 pct

I'll think about the winny and the proviron, but will ditch the hcg for now, so there...now how does that look? I really doubt that I have twice as much planned for my 1st than your 6th or 7th Terminator

Bro, Eq at 18% BF? What's the point? Save your money. You want to use more? bump the test up to 600mg, much cheaper.

 

[Beestig]

I`d suggest

Week 1-2 750 mg test enth
Week 3-10 500mg test
Week 1-9 300 mg equip
Week 3-10 25 mg Proviron ED

Week 10-11 2500IE HCG (every 5 days)
Week 12-13 1500IE HCG (every 5 days)

week 12-13 40mg Novaldex
Week 14 25 mg Novaldex
Week 15 20 mg Novaldex

I wouldn`t take d-bol (you don`t need to many products) and you`ll see how you react on test (since eq kicks in quite late).
HCG for your nuts
Only Novaldex and no clomid so you know how it works on you. Or try clomid but no nolva (again to see how you react on it)

Proviron from week 3, since it will only go full force in week 3 or 4.

 

[Beestig]

I meant Proviron from week 3 , since test will only go full force in week 3 or 4. Keep it in, gives test an extra boost and keeps bloat in control. BTW : i`m doing this cycle (also first timer) and works quite well IMO.

 

[SQ4]

Thanks thx! I know bf is a lil higher than I would want before I hit my cycle, but I'm in the middle of dropping it to about 12 before I even start...this is a planned cycle, I'm not gonna do it right now, even tho I have almost all my stuff ready to go...I'm just laying it out there to see what people say...funny thing is everytime I do, alot of respectable people say different things, so that's why I keep asking for opinions on my cycle, so I can hear different reasons for adding or dropping certain things and then evaluate it all. Well thanks for all your replies guys, most were helpful!

 

[pharmguy]

I would drop the arimidiex to .5 mg EOD and drop it all together once you start nolva. In fact, with proviron there is almost no point in taking all of that arimidex. I would pick one or the other. Remember, it is estrogen that will bring your recpetors back quicker post cycle which is what you want when you androgen level drops. You don't want to kill every bit of estrogen, just keep it managable. Also wait an extra week (at least 4 total)to start the recovery. And finally , you can throw in HCG around week 10,11 but remember, when you want to use it in the future, it will be less effective. ( at least in my personal experience). So weigh the need, that cycle is not so long that you NEED hcg. Good luck. I like everything else. (except the winny)
PG

 

[The Terminator]

Test 1-10 @ 500mg/wk
EQ 1-10 @ 400/wk
D bol 1-4 @ 30-35/ed

I'll think about the winny and the proviron, but will ditch the hcg for now, so there...now how does that look? I really doubt that I have twice as much planned for my 1st than your 6th or 7th Terminator

Acutually yours is much more than my last one was...(test 625 mg/week and dbol 25 mg/day for 3 weeks)

Yours is well over a gram a week (on your first cycle )...Its overkill, and I can only wonder where you will go from here...
What happens if your hair starts coming out in clumps, your prostate swells up, you get jaundice, pustule filled acne, gyno, etc...You are diving in head first and the water may not be as deep as you think...

 

[pharmguy]

I think EQ @ 400 and test @ 300 is plenty , especially for first cycle. I like higher EQ doses, but it isn't needed 1st cycle, you will get the same gains as an expereinced user at higher doses. but noone listens so I dont usually bother to say it.

 

[SQ4]

Acutually yours is much more than my last one was...(test 625 mg/week and dbol 25 mg/day for 3 weeks)

Yours is well over a gram a week (on your first cycle )...Its overkill, and I can only wonder where you will go from here...
What happens if your hair starts coming out in clumps, your prostate swells up, you get jaundice, pustule filled acne, gyno, etc...You are diving in head first and the water may not be as deep as you think...

Can you please tell me how you figure?? Maybe I didn't explain it clearly...test will be 250mg mon and 250mg thurs a total of 500 a week

I could bump the dbol down to 25, no prob there! But as far as your statement about side affects, that's the reason for my anti's, NO? I forgot to add I'm looking into a shampoo that 'll help with the dht...and me diving in shallow water, I think that isn't a fair statement to say! Hence the reason I'm here asking for oppinions! I've had most of my stuff for about a year and a half now and am in no rush to hit this cycle! Keep in mind that this was a proposed cycle...nothing written in stone, so to all he folks that gave useful info...it's greatly appreciated. Peace!

 

[flex2win]

too much gear. a simple stack of test/dbol maybe some nolvs or arimidex and clomid post cycle. test 500mg for 10 weeks/dbol 20-30mg for the first 4-6 weeks. no need for the eq or winny........

great point...you'd be surprised what guys start out with...

 

[The Terminator]

Can you please tell me how you figure?? Maybe I didn't explain it clearly...test will be 250mg mon and 250mg thurs a total of 500 a week

This is NOT 500 mg/week (your initial proposed cycle):

1-10 test en 500mg/w Mon-Thur
1-10 EQ 600mg week 1 & 2/400mg week 3-10 Mon-Thur
1-4 Dbol 35mg/ed
7-13, maybe 8-13 Winny 50mg/ed
1-13 Proviron 50mg/ed

The cycle is laid out pretty well (as far as timing goes, but it is just too advanced for a newbie to gear, that's all...)
You are using too many drugs!!!