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Can you guys take a look at my 1st cycle?

SQ4 said:


! But as far as your statement about side affects, that's the reason for my anti's, NO? I forgot to add I'm looking into a shampoo that 'll help with the dht...and me diving in shallow water, I think that isn't a fair statement to say!

And just because you are taking precautionary methods does not guarantee that bad sides will not manifest themselvs, its just lessens the likelihood...I do like that you seem to have put alot of thought into this, but what it comes down to is I simply think you are taking too many drugs...
 
The Terminator said:


And just because you are taking precautionary methods does not guarantee that bad sides will not manifest themselvs,

Plus one thing to add -- with so many drugs if you do get sides, how are you gonna know what caused what?

You'd be surprised how your body reacts to some drugs. My hair is fine with deca and test, yet with 200mg weekly of primo I lose hair like mad. ( :0 to those how say primo and hairloss is a myth --everybody reacts differently to everything, and your not gonna react exactly the same as anyone else)

Keep it to simple Test/Dbol.
 
This should be all you need for a first cycle:

Test (cyp, enanthate, sustanon) 500mg week 1-8
Dbol 20-25mg ED week 1-5
arimidex (you may also save your money on this one) .5mg ED

THAT'S ALL !!!

If you can't grow on this, then you should just quit. :)
 
manny78 said:
This should be all you need for a first cycle:

Test (cyp, enanthate, sustanon) 500mg week 1-8
Dbol 20-25mg ED week 1-5
arimidex (you may also save your money on this one) .5mg ED

THAT'S ALL !!!

If you can't grow on this, then you should just quit. :)

Amen. ;)
 
SQ4 said:


Can you please tell me how you figure?? Maybe I didn't explain it clearly...test will be 250mg mon and 250mg thurs a total of 500 a week

I could bump the dbol down to 25, no prob there! But as far as your statement about side affects, that's the reason for my anti's, NO? I forgot to add I'm looking into a shampoo that 'll help with the dht...and me diving in shallow water, I think that isn't a fair statement to say! Hence the reason I'm here asking for oppinions! I've had most of my stuff for about a year and a half now and am in no rush to hit this cycle! Keep in mind that this was a proposed cycle...nothing written in stone, so to all he folks that gave useful info...it's greatly appreciated. Peace!
What he means it is over a total gram of gear a week. Including the EQ. To much IMO.
What is the point of the Nolvadex?
 
The Terminator said:


This is NOT 500 mg/week (your initial proposed cycle):

1-10 test en 500mg/w Mon-Thur
1-10 EQ 600mg week 1 & 2/400mg week 3-10 Mon-Thur
1-4 Dbol 35mg/ed
7-13, maybe 8-13 Winny 50mg/ed
1-13 Proviron 50mg/ed

The cycle is laid out pretty well (as far as timing goes, but it is just too advanced for a newbie to gear, that's all...)
You are using too many drugs!!!

READ THIS...This should be my last reply on this one as these type of threads frustrate me...
 
I think what you have is fine, just cut the dosages in half or close to that, and don't use so many anti-e's
PG
 
I think for a first cycle test at 500wk and dbol at 20mg ed is plenty to start with(it was for me). Keep nolva on hand and hcg/clomid for pct. No need to rush it bro. Once you get in this game, you're most likely going to continue for a while and if that's the case, you can always do those heavier cycles later. But for me personally, I'm on my second cycle of primo 500mg/week (only ran dbol for 3 weeks before the sides started to affect my workouts). My third cycle will be test 500wk + EQ 400/wk. You obviously did some homework, that's good, but if I were you, I'd put just as much energy into diet/training, especially diet.
 
Okay everybody's input is taken and very much appreciated! I'll tone it down to this:

Test 1-10, 250mg on Mon & Thur, Total of 500mg a week
EQ 1-10, 200mg on Mon & Thur, a total of 400mg a week
D bol 1-4, 25mg/ed, 1 tab spreaded out thru the day
Arimidex, .5 all the way thru

Will keep the Nolv on hand incase gyno kicks in, also will save the winny, hcg, and proviron for later...and start pct 17 days after last EQ shot (maybe 21 days to be sure) clomid @ 100/100/50

Better??

@ Terminator, don't be so frustrated Bro...you was once planning out your first cycle too, ya know....anyways your input was appreciated too! Not all noobs are hard headed...just some like to question things a lil more than the average
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good call sq4. I think you could drop the EQ all together, but it's defnitely better than all that other stuff you had planned. when are you starting?
 
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