can steroids kill you?

[joe d]

if this thread gives you a bad fealing or is something that you dont want to think about then you should reconsider your training and steroid use.

lets talk about the risks we face as bb'ers and pl'ers asociated with hard training, our unhealthy diets, and our steroid use.

all three of the above have been known to cause serous health risks from high bp and diabetes to liver failure, heart atack and strokes. sudden death. some of us seem to convince ourselves that the risks arent there. either because we are to stupid to understand or we dont want to accept the truth because we are to obsessed to quit.

it happens more than we hear about. we only hear of it when its someone famous or someone local. think back through your life about how many times you have heard of young men dying in connection with steroids.

i havent even mentioned the possibility of being accideltally poisoned and killed by a ug lab. think about it. who are you trusting with your life? i wonder how many household chemicals will kill you if you injected a small amount. its not like oral where you have defence mechanisms.

do you have a life partner? are they in agreement with the chances you are taking?

im not trying to rain on any ones parade. i just want people to be clear on what is really going on.


please disguss.

tell me im a dick if you want. (as long as your ready for a g-bomb)

 

[enacer420nj]

joe your a dick...haha jk...good post I only cycle once a year and I use safe dosages so I dont worry too much.

 

[maldorf]

if this thread gives you a bad fealing or is something that you dont want to think about then you should reconsider your training and steroid use.

lets talk about the risks we face as bb'ers and pl'ers asociated with hard training, our unhealthy diets, and our steroid use.

all three of the above have been known to cause serous health risks from high bp and diabetes to liver failure, heart atack and strokes. sudden death. some of us seem to convince ourselves that the risks arent there. either because we are to stupid to understand or we dont want to accept the truth because we are to obsessed to quit.

it happens more than we hear about. we only hear of it when its someone famous or someone local. think back through your life about how many times you have heard of young men dying in connection with steroids.

i havent even mentioned the possibility of being accideltally poisoned and killed by a ug lab. think about it. who are you trusting with your life? i wonder how many household chemicals will kill you if you injected a small amount. its not like oral where you have defence mechanisms.

do you have a life partner? are they in agreement with the chances you are taking?

im not trying to rain on any ones parade. i just want people to be clear on what is really going on.


please disguss.

tell me im a dick if you want. (as long as your ready for a g-bomb)

Hey! Sounds like you have changed your mind about this subject. A few months ago your posts sounded like your mind set was not this. I am glad that you made this post and have thought about this important decision so many of us have made. I suffered an almost fatal heart attack, and it took that to drive it home for me. Hopefully others wont have to have such a dramatic reason to think things over.

 

[eClenbuterol]

This is something that You have to think about before you begin steroids. One of the problems that I am seeing is that guys are not making sure that they have no underlying conditions before they run a cycle, meaning no blood work. I remember my first cycle that I ran was EQ and Supertest and it put my blood pressure over the danger zone. When I had it checked it was 220 over 90 220/90 at the Doctors office. The only reason that I had it checked was due to the fact I was getting Migraine headaches, and the BP was causing it. I know it was EQ now because I have ran it many ti mes and my BP is always higher then any other AAS.

Moral of the story if I took preventive measure I would of had it under control and the issue would have not been a issue. Regarding getting UG bad gear that is therisk that you take. One way to help make sure it's sterile is to bake it and run it through a whatmans filter, and re-transfer. You should atleast be filtering your gear.

 

[HOLYSHITLOOK@ME]

Can steroids kill? These boards are filled with information of steroids and toxicity levels of them. We know and have discussed at length the effects gear can have on blood pressure and cholesterol. We know and have discussed in length the effects it has on kidneys and the liver. It's obvious that steroids can lead to unwanted sides and even be a factor in some deaths.

 

[centeroiler]

if this thread gives you a bad fealing or is something that you dont want to think about then you should reconsider your training and steroid use.

lets talk about the risks we face as bb'ers and pl'ers asociated with hard training, our unhealthy diets, and our steroid use.

all three of the above have been known to cause serous health risks from high bp and diabetes to liver failure, heart atack and strokes. sudden death. some of us seem to convince ourselves that the risks arent there. either because we are to stupid to understand or we dont want to accept the truth because we are to obsessed to quit.

it happens more than we hear about. we only hear of it when its someone famous or someone local. think back through your life about how many times you have heard of young men dying in connection with steroids.

i havent even mentioned the possibility of being accideltally poisoned and killed by a ug lab. think about it. who are you trusting with your life? i wonder how many household chemicals will kill you if you injected a small amount. its not like oral where you have defence mechanisms.

do you have a life partner? are they in agreement with the chances you are taking?

im not trying to rain on any ones parade. i just want people to be clear on what is really going on.


please disguss.

tell me im a dick if you want. (as long as your ready for a g-bomb)

First, hard training can be stressful, with or without steroids. I always warm up completely, stretching and more importantly do cardio. This way I'm not shocking my heart when I hit, say the squat rack. This is common sense.

Second, my diet has never been healthier and especially when I'm using. My days of eating shit food are long over. If I'm injecting AAS and working out like a mad man then fuck undermining all that with junk food. My cholesterol is great now from diet alone, no statins. And, I have a personal BP machine that I use all the time.

The dangers of steroids are well known on this board, and anyone would be foolish ignore the potential risks outlined here. We know what to expect, high estrogen, shrunken nuts, high BP, high lipids, high liver enzymes, etc. so anyone choosing to ignore these side-effects is a complete fool. Especially since for nearly every negative side-effect, there is something to counteract it, or minimize it.

Most of the heart problems and strokes from AAS can be attributed to high BP and the heart having to pump unnatural amounts of blood to unnaturally-sized bodies fueled with copious amounts of other recreational drugs such as cocaine, amphetamines, opiates, benzodiazapines, etc. etc. etc.

I know the risks and they are worth it to me. And, no I don't tell my significant other. You know why? Because no matter what I say, ANYTHING, it won't matter. She, along with just about everyone else I know is already brainwashed by what the media says about how evil steroids are and there's nothing that is gonna change their minds. So, I keep it to myself as best I can. I think she knows, but I don't confirm it.

 

[takedown140]

the truth is yea steroids can lead to side that can cause death, but if you look at it that way someing as simple as a peanut or vitamin C can do the sam as well ..

 

[Unit 2005]

Too much of anything can kill you, i believe steroids can be relativly safe if you use them sensibly but yes these powerful hormones can kill if miss used or abused.

 

[joe d]

so how about the intense training and extreme diets that we follow. and the truck load of extra work our bodies have to do to hold those extra 100lbs it wasn't meant to carry? what about the fact that our bodies where designed with a digestive system that was desiged to have several rest periods per day and we give them none? also our blood itself is always over loaded?

 

[joe d]

i do understand that these risks do not apply nearly as much to those that are not that large, that barely clear 3000cals in a day, that only cycle 500mg of gear once per year. this thread is more for the guys that are more than trippling their rda in food carrying an extra 100+ lbs and never go off the gear.

 

[centeroiler]

so how about the intense training and extreme diets that we follow. and the truck load of extra work our bodies have to do to hold those extra 100lbs it wasn't meant to carry? what about the fact that our bodies where designed with a digestive system that was desiged to have several rest periods per day and we give them none? also our blood itself is always over loaded?
i do understand that these risks do not apply nearly as much to those that are not that large, that barely clear 3000cals in a day, that only cycle 500mg of gear once per year. this thread is more for the guys that are more than trippling their rda in food carrying an extra 100+ lbs and never go off the gear.

Now you're just preaching to the choir, Joe. I think we would all be in agreement that there are risks involved. What is confusing is that you are making this argument and then in the same breath listing that you are taking 2G of Test a week!

 

[joe d]

Now you're just preaching to the choir, Joe. I think we would all be in agreement that there are risks involved. What is confusing is that you are making this argument and then in the same breath listing that you are taking 2G of Test a week!

i am not preaching anything. i am not asking any one to stop using gear. im not saying anyone shouldnt use gear. i am saying as stated in my first post that i see posts and responces to posts where some people actually think that they are living a super healthy lifestyle and that there is no harm in running these cycles. that is scary. i also new of a guy who thought like this until he suffered heart failure and is on a pace maker for the rest of his short life. i see people saying they dont get checked out to try to prevent these problems they just say fuck it and run cycle after cycle blind to reality.

my cycle has nothing to do with the topic. this thread is not about how far you will go. it is about facing reality and possible preventing your own death. knowing when it is time to quit. and if you have no fear of these realities than you are most likely going to pay for it sooner or later.

dont take it personal unless you are one that thinks my these risks are false.

 

[centeroiler]

i am not preaching anything. i am not asking any one to stop using gear. im not saying anyone shouldnt use gear. i am saying as stated in my first post that i see posts and responces to posts where some people actually think that they are living a super healthy lifestyle and that there is no harm in running these cycles. that is scary. i also new of a guy who thought like this until he suffered heart failure and is on a pace maker for the rest of his short life. i see people saying they dont get checked out to try to prevent these problems they just say fuck it and run cycle after cycle blind to reality.

my cycle has nothing to do with the topic. this thread is not about how far you will go. it is about facing reality and possible preventing your own death. knowing when it is time to quit. and if you have no fear of these realities than you are most likely going to pay for it sooner or later.

dont take it personal unless you are one that thinks my these risks are false.

I'm not taking anything personal. I'm trying to understand the point. "Preaching to the choir" is a term, not an accusation. If the intent is to invoke a debate on the risks of steroids thats all good. Its just really contradictory to site all of these fatalistic scenarios and then list that you are taking Testosterone and DBol in large doses. Okay, objection sustained. I'll re-phrase the question. Do you practice what you preach? Well obviously, no you don't because you are using AAS right now. Its as though you are looking for an absolution, or something, for your own use of steroids.

I'm trying to not be antagonistic, I'm just not sure where you stand.

 

[Nelson Montana]

The dangers are both overrated and underrated. It would take a lot to seriously injure a healthy young adult, but when 40 year old guys with high BP take a gram a week -- you bet your ass that can kill you. That doesn;t make them evil or more dangerous than a million other things we take each day. (Aspirin can kill you). bUt it's good to keep in mind, they aren't candy.

And the UG thing -- yeah. Very bad. I don't trust them. Pharma grade or nothing. And that doesn't mean it has to be American Organon. Thailand sells generic pharma for a couple of bucks more than UG. Worth it.

 

[joe d]

I'm not taking anything personal. I'm trying to understand the point. "Preaching to the choir" is a term, not an accusation. If the intent is to invoke a debate on the risks of steroids thats all good. Its just really contradictory to site all of these fatalistic scenarios and then list that you are taking Testosterone and DBol in large doses. Okay, objection sustained. I'll re-phrase the question. Do you practice what you preach? Well obviously, no you don't because you are using AAS right now. Its as though you are looking for an absolution, or something, for your own use of steroids.

I'm trying to not be antagonistic, I'm just not sure where you stand.

you still dont understand the point. check out all the previous statements. if i am preaching anything it is to not be stupid in thinking you dont have anything to worry about because if you are doing all of these things that i have listed (and like i myself do) then you have a lot to worry about and if you get checked out regularly and have an idea of the limits your body has you will most likely be able to limit or stop your usage and prevent these serous conditions before they happen.

i think in the last 2 wks alone i have seen 10+ posts of nonsence like there is no evidence that steroids can hurt you. or steroids dont kill you its stuff like gh and diet drugs. <--- this is the thinking that will surely kill you. and i see members of this board make these statements regularly. so i figured lets run a thread not to trash any one or to try to get them not to use gear but only to try to shed some light on the situation for them and maybe one or two of them may read it and decide to be smarter about this.

 

[mattu3743]

nice post bro

 

[scotty too hotty]

The only sure thing in medicine and life is death! We should all respect that.

 

[timtim]

carrying extra lean body mass does not stress the heart. carrying extra fat does. the heart doesnt work harder for bbers', that is totally untrue. ive had this conversation with my doc many times when my bp was higher than it should be. there is no correlation. the drugs which add the extra pounds increase the bp and stress the heart. he uses many of his hrt patients as examples and he has a bunch of monsters whom ive seen in his office. they are lean as fuck and their bp is never an issue. he looks at cholesterol and kidney/liver function primarily because the bp is never problematic, unless you are carrying extra bf.

those with normal kidney/liver function shouldnt have trouble with a typical bbers diet. though protein intake recommendations are often comically high, they still shouldnt have an impact on a healthy person, besides taxing the wallet.

 

[centeroiler]

you still dont understand the point. check out all the previous statements. if i am preaching anything it is to not be stupid in thinking you dont have anything to worry about because if you are doing all of these things that i have listed (and like i myself do) then you have a lot to worry about and if you get checked out regularly and have an idea of the limits your body has you will most likely be able to limit or stop your usage and prevent these serous conditions before they happen.

i think in the last 2 wks alone i have seen 10+ posts of nonsence like there is no evidence that steroids can hurt you. or steroids dont kill you its stuff like gh and diet drugs. <--- this is the thinking that will surely kill you. and i see members of this board make these statements regularly. so i figured lets run a thread not to trash any one or to try to get them not to use gear but only to try to shed some light on the situation for them and maybe one or two of them may read it and decide to be smarter about this.

Well, I really don't have an axe to grind here, but considering you put it that way, allow me to retort. I understand THE point, Joe. I just don't understand YOUR point. If you are trying to get the message out about the dangers of steroids, just come out and say it. You don't have to wrap the message in ambiguities and contradictions.

I agree with the message, however convoluted it may be, maybe I just didn't agree with the way its presented. I would have liked your own take on it considering your the one making an argument against steroid use, then going on to list everything that you are currently taking. And to say your own "cycle has nothing to do with the topic is ridiculous. Its like you want it both ways. Its kinda like saying "I take steroids because I'm smart, but the rest of you dumb fucks shouldn't be taking them because you aren't intelligent enough to use them without fully accepting or realizing the dangers".

Believe it or not Joe, we're on the same team here, insofar as I cringe too when I read newbs and not-so-newbs speaking as if they know wtf they are talking about, when they talk about how steroids don't pose any serious dangers. Thats just a complete lack of respect for the drugs themselves, all the good bros on here trying to teach others, and the piles of info available to all bros, via a few strokes of the Search button. Lets just shout it out loud and clear. Its real simple. If you cannot, or will not, respect the dangers of Anabolic Steroid use, then you are just too f**king dumb to be taking them.

 

[Unit 2005]

There must be a link somewhere between using and abusing the drugs - just look at the pro wreslters who are dropping (Test, Rick Rude, British Bulldog, Eddie Gurerro, Mr Perfect, Road Warriors, Big Bossman) of heart attacks before or around the age of 40....maybe thier lifestlye or constant peforming and travelling is a big factor also.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Getting check ups doesn't prevent anything. You can check out fine and drop dead leaving the doctors office. That too, is a form of rationalizing. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but hey, if you're doing 2 grams a week you don't need a doctor to tell you you're pushing it.

And excess bodyweight, even if it's muscle, is not healthy after a while. The human heart was not designed to sustain 270 pounds, no matter how good you look.

I'm of the school that bodybuilding (and gear use) makes you look more like a god. Hell, Reeves was 190, Zane was 180, Arnold was 210. Does anyone think these guys weren't big enough? Do any women think they weren't muscular enough? So many guys using huge dosages look like they barely work out. I could never understand the point of taking health risking levels to put more formless size on an already smooth body. I just don't get it.

 

[Tatyana]

Most of you are thinking of heart disease and forgetting about stroke, which is frequently far, far, far more detrimental.

Steroids increase red blood cells, which may increase the viscosity of the blood. Many people have abnormalities of their blood vessels which has areas where blood may slow or stagnate.

With the added viscosity, clots form, and WHAM, stroke out, lose the ability to move on the left side of your body, speech...

This isn't age related either. It can happen at any age and in healthy people.

Things to watch out for: the face falling or drooping, the inability to raise both arms, loss of speech or difficulty in speech.

If you or anyone has one of these symptoms, phone an ambulence, the faster time to treatment will save more of the brain.

 

[centeroiler]

Most of you are thinking of heart disease and forgetting about stroke, which is frequently far, far, far more detrimental.

Steroids increase red blood cells, which may increase the viscosity of the blood. Many people have abnormalities of their blood vessels which has areas where blood may slow or stagnate.

With the added viscosity, clots form, and WHAM, stroke out, lose the ability to move on the left side of your body, speech...

This isn't age related either. It can happen at any age and in healthy people.

Things to watch out for: the face falling or drooping, the inability to raise both arms, loss of speech or difficulty in speech.

If you or anyone has one of these symptoms, phone an ambulence, the faster time to treatment will save more of the brain.

This is good info and probably is the cause of high BP while on. My question is this: If steroids increase viscosity of blood, then why is it so often said that AAS thin the blood? I have a surgery planned and was told to hold off on taking AAS becuase of the risk of increased bleeding???

 

[Nelson Montana]

This is good info and probably is the cause of high BP while on. My question is this: If steroids increase viscosity of blood, then why is it so often said that AAS thin the blood? I have a surgery planned and was told to hold off on taking AAS becuase of the risk of increased bleeding???

Deca thins the blood. Almost all others thicken it.

 

[promet1]

2 asprin will help you 20 can kill ya enough said

can't blieve this got sooo much press

 

[promet1]

Getting check ups doesn't prevent anything. You can check out fine and drop dead leaving the doctors office. That too, is a form of rationalizing. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but hey, if you're doing 2 grams a week you don't need a doctor to tell you you're pushing it.

And excess bodyweight, even if it's muscle, is not healthy after a while. The human heart was not designed to sustain 270 pounds, no matter how good you look.

I'm of the school that bodybuilding (and gear use) makes you look more like a god. Hell, Reeves was 190, Zane was 180, Arnold was 210. Does anyone think these guys weren't big enough? Do any women think they weren't muscular enough? So many guys using huge dosages look like they barely work out. I could never understand the point of taking health risking levels to put more formless size on an already smooth body. I just don't get it.

Im from his school ! why dose anyone want to be 260 when Arnold was 210 !!! who hear would'nt want to have Arnolds back !!

 

[promet1]

This is good info and probably is the cause of high BP while on. My question is this: If steroids increase viscosity of blood, then why is it so often said that AAS thin the blood? I have a surgery planned and was told to hold off on taking AAS becuase of the risk of increased bleeding???

Most Doctors dont no shit about ASS or Gh my wife was having elective surgery, she was on GH , we told the doc and he told her to stop because he did not know enough about gh.

The Doc she got her scrip from freaked out !
he told us We srip's it for burn victoms to excelrate healing !!!

Two Docs one that knows and...a main stream doc that dose not know shit about our subject.

Find a Doc that dose not have his head in baseball news !!
I did, and Its the way to go.

There out there, U just need to find them

 

[centeroiler]

Getting check ups doesn't prevent anything. You can check out fine and drop dead leaving the doctors office. That too, is a form of rationalizing. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but hey, if you're doing 2 grams a week you don't need a doctor to tell you you're pushing it.

And excess bodyweight, even if it's muscle, is not healthy after a while. The human heart was not designed to sustain 270 pounds, no matter how good you look.

I'm of the school that bodybuilding (and gear use) makes you look more like a god. Hell, Reeves was 190, Zane was 180, Arnold was 210. Does anyone think these guys weren't big enough? Do any women think they weren't muscular enough? So many guys using huge dosages look like they barely work out. I could never understand the point of taking health risking levels to put more formless size on an already smooth body. I just don't get it.

Well said Nelson. Thats why I have never subscribed to the so-called "bulking" (up) cycle mentality. Unless you are an extremely hard gainer, bulking is just an excuse to eat like a pig and get fat. Who wants to look fat and bloated? Hell, I can do that without even touching the gear.

 

[HAYEZ]

if this thread gives you a bad fealing or is something that you dont want to think about then you should reconsider your training and steroid use.

lets talk about the risks we face as bb'ers and pl'ers asociated with hard training, our unhealthy diets, and our steroid use.

all three of the above have been known to cause serous health risks from high bp and diabetes to liver failure, heart atack and strokes. sudden death. some of us seem to convince ourselves that the risks arent there. either because we are to stupid to understand or we dont want to accept the truth because we are to obsessed to quit.

it happens more than we hear about. we only hear of it when its someone famous or someone local. think back through your life about how many times you have heard of young men dying in connection with steroids.

i havent even mentioned the possibility of being accideltally poisoned and killed by a ug lab. think about it. who are you trusting with your life? i wonder how many household chemicals will kill you if you injected a small amount. its not like oral where you have defence mechanisms.

do you have a life partner? are they in agreement with the chances you are taking?

im not trying to rain on any ones parade. i just want people to be clear on what is really going on.


please disguss.

tell me im a dick if you want. (as long as your ready for a g-bomb)

lmfao at your cycle and this post ... but yes steroids are not the healthiest choice.... if you stay away form orals, cycle responsibly you can minimize alot fo the sides,,, i prefer steroids over binge drinking though which most people will do and think there helthier then a juicer

 

[Big_Joe]

Many,many more people are killed from alcohol poisoning then steroids. If you drink a lot of water it can kill you. I think the underlaying premise is wrong. Anything can kill you!! Eat a lot of salt and it will kill you. Eat to little salt and it will kill you.(As a side note salt is so important that Roman soldiers were paid in salt. That's where we get the saying "Not worth his salt.") I don't want to call you a dick but the way you posted this it reminds me of a child that learns they can drown and then is afraid to go swimming. Looking at the pictures of children you have posted I think either your neighbor has been very busy at your house or you are a grown man. Everything you do has danger associated with it. Take responsibility for what you do and be as smart about it as you can.

And I am a social Darwinist. Stupidity is expensive and should remain so. If someone is so stupid that they kill themselves doing something that most others have done without harm then its a good thing that they don't pass on their genes.

And this is really the underlaying problem of modern society. Anything that might have a danger level associated with it is then controled so fools can't get hurt. The total population is put apon for the minority that are to stupid for words. I always wear a seatbelt when I drive. But I resent the law telling me I have to wear one. This is the reason you posted this. Your whole life the state has looked after you so you don't even think about it. And now you are outside of the states control and it scares you that your safety is in your hands.

Addition:

Joe I just read another thing you wrote on this thread. You said your "body was designed." This is totally wrong and anybody with a highschool education should know that. Your body evolved it wasn't designed. Your body evolved in such a way that we can work it hard, feed it well and it will respond and grow. By being a BBer you are actually just working with what nature has evolved your body to be. And your digestion system has only gotten "rest" after the industrial revolution. When we were running around naked or in skins we ate all the time. Look at the great apes today. They spend the vast majority of thier time eating. That's the way we were. The concept that you have three meals a day was created so you could run a machine in a factory!!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Joe I just read another thing you wrote on this thread. You said your "body was designed." This is totally wrong and anybody with a highschool education should know that. Your body evolved it wasn't designed. Your body evolved in such a way that we can work it hard, feed it well and it will respond and grow. By being a BBer you are actually just working with what nature has evolved your body to be. And your digestion system has only gotten "rest" after the industrial revolution. When we were running around naked or in skins we ate all the time. Look at the great apes today. They spend the vast majority of thier time eating. That's the way we were. The concept that you have three meals a day was created so you could run a machine in a factory!!

It was I who use the exprssion, "the body was designed" and it's a figure of speech and one I think everyone got.

Yes, we all know that the human body is a process of evolution. But your rational is off. To say it's somehow natural to grow as much as possible is convoluted logic. If your ancestors for the last 4000 years were approximately 160 pounds and then in one leap you go to 260...well, the body has not yet EVOLVED to the point where it carries that weight comfortably and it will be unduly stressed.

 

[needtogetaas]

I better stop eating peanuts then.

 

[Tatyana]

This is good info and probably is the cause of high BP while on. My question is this: If steroids increase viscosity of blood, then why is it so often said that AAS thin the blood? I have a surgery planned and was told to hold off on taking AAS becuase of the risk of increased bleeding???

Just to correct a funny way people refer to clotting; nothing thins or thickens the blood.

The body keeps water balance in very tight control, and the only way this changes is under severe conditions like phenomenal amounts of vomiting or diarrhoea, bleeding out, pathological sweating and dehydration or if the majority of your body is covered in burns.

The ingestion of far too much water MIGHT thin the blood temporarly, but the kidneys kick in quickly to eliminate it.

Various drugs interfer or block various components of the clotting cascade, this is why you may clot less and bleed out.

I am sure some drugs also induce a state of hypercoagulation as well.

For example, (I hope I remember this correctly), aspirin makes platelets less likely to release whatever they release so they stick together or vascular endothelium.

Aspirin does not thin the blood.

Steroids also result in a temporary hyperthyroidism, which is probably why people may have high blood pressure and why they think steroids take off fat.

They don't, the resultant elevation in your metabolism from more thyroxine in your body does this.

 

[centeroiler]

Just to correct a funny way people refer to clotting; nothing thins or thickens the blood.

The body keeps water balance in very tight control, and the only way this changes is under severe conditions like phenomenal amounts of vomiting or diarrhoea, bleeding out, pathological sweating and dehydration or if the majority of your body is covered in burns.

The ingestion of far too much water MIGHT thin the blood temporarly, but the kidneys kick in quickly to eliminate it.

Various drugs interfer or block various components of the clotting cascade, this is why you may clot less and bleed out.

I am sure some drugs also induce a state of hypercoagulation as well.

For example, (I hope I remember this correctly), aspirin makes platelets less likely to release whatever they release so they stick together or vascular endothelium.

Aspirin does not thin the blood.

Steroids also result in a temporary hyperthyroidism, which is probably why people may have high blood pressure and why they think steroids take off fat.

They don't, the resultant elevation in your metabolism from more thyroxine in your body does this.

So, is there a biological process whereby AAS' inhibit coagulation and then, can cause excessive bleeding during surgery, cuts, injuries, etc.?

 

[timtim]

So, is there a biological process whereby AAS' inhibit coagulation and then, can cause excessive bleeding during surgery, cuts, injuries, etc.?

i have heard of this but have no scientific background to back up what im saying. i have always been told to tell my doc if im on before surgery due to bleeding issues.

 

[Tatyana]

So, is there a biological process whereby AAS' inhibit coagulation and then, can cause excessive bleeding during surgery, cuts, injuries, etc.?

I think that the concern with AAS and surgery isn't the bleeding thing, but the anaesthetic.

 

[1500]

thats why i have never subscribed to the so-called "bulking" (up) cycle mentality. Unless you are an extremely hard gainer, bulking is just an excuse to eat like a pig and get fat. Who wants to look fat and bloated? hell, i can do that without even touching the gear.

+1. .

 

[HAYEZ]

i been bulking since oct..good ol tren added int he mix and im lean er then when i was cutting hahahaha

 

[centeroiler]

i been bulking since oct..good ol tren added int he mix and im lean er then when i was cutting hahahaha

Tren is cheating! piggyboy!

Now, go work those traps. They're look'n weak!!!

 

[HAYEZ]

Tren is cheating! piggyboy!

Now, go work those traps. They're look'n weak!!!

lol@piggyboy i been thinking about workign out all day..cant seem to get out of bed tho lolol