Can I ask you ladies a question?

[flexed1]

I have always found it to be a positive towards both male and female. I get hit on by both and the comments always are oh your smart. I guess they think most of us are stupid. The other side is i get those who stare and amke nasty commenst (I assume this). These I try to turn my head on. You look great so enjoy your life and keep in a happy palce and folks will see you as a real person and not what some assume is a dumb muscle head.

 

[Delinquent]

Hey SAF, I hate to say it bro, but this board probably isn't the best place to ask that kind of question. I mean if you think about it, how did most of the people find this place? B/c either themselves or someone they know is interested in steroids in some way. Remember I said most not all. The best way to find an answer, I would try to send out a memo or something to people either in a college or some other place outside of here to get a full rounded opinion. Just a suggestion bro.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Silly boy.....I AM! hehehheheheheeeeee

Single but NOT LOOKING.

 

[HelenSL]

I posted this in the "Clubs, Bars, and Circuit Parties" forum, but frorider6 suggested to post this here since there is much more traffic, Anyway, here goes...

I have been tossing and turning about this dilemma for years and I wanted to get some first-hand advice from you club-dwelling ladies.

I used to go to clubs in New York City all the time, Factory, Twilo, the Tunnel, you name it, so I've seen all walks of young life from bony chicks to juice-head idiots, but lately I've taken a break from it. Recently, I've been wondering about how we really look in the eyes of other people as opposed to the way we see ourselves in the mirror.

For example, when I see a chick who obviously starves herself in an attempt not gain weight (Anorexia), and as a result destroys her overall look in the process, I get chills up and down my spine. It is not very attractive. The point is that you see this chick in one light, but she sees herself in another; she actually thinks she looks good.

So, my analogy now shifts over to the male aspect. I know a lot of guys on this board use anabolic steriods, and I'll admit that I am one of them. So I'm wondering if girls view guys that are obviously on steriods as people who are obsessed with their bodies in the same manner as guys view anorexic chicks that are obsessed with their bodies.

The reason I'm asking is because whenever I go out, I have a feeling that I scare girls with my build. Not that I'm overly massive, I'm only 5"5', 170, 26 years old, single , but none of my shirts fit me right and it's obvious to people that look at me that my build is not natural. I mean, I'm not a freak, and I dont want to be one either.

When I look at myself in the mirror, I'm happy with the way I look, but that's *me* and my opinion. I dont think that I am extreme in any way, or perhaps I am? I dont know, but you girls can judge for yourself, I've included a pic that you can see below.

So, I was just wondering at what point does it become too extreme on a guys build which back-fires on them and actually makes them look unattractive? That's all I'd like to know. Because if it comes down to it, I'll go back to being a puny 140lb dork

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later,

SAF

This is one of the best questions I've ever read here, SAF!!!

Personally I respect people who put effort into anything...so I respect the efforts people put into bodybuilding, who post here...they should be pleased to see results of that...

I believe balance is best and yes, probably some people are 'obsessed' with body building...

Personally I would like you as much as a puny male as an extremely body-built-up one...in fact the interests of a puny male - or out-of-condition male - probably match my own a lot better than those of someone who works out all the time...

But body appearance per se is not a key factor for me...as you say it can indicate reason for concern...addictions to under or overeating...addictions to body-building...any addictions compromise us being as 'complete' as humans as we could be.

But then to stop through sheer will-power and denial of who we are is not the answer either, to being more complete...

We need something to be passionate about and we need to be useful and productive and see the results of our efforts...all these things we need to feel ok...and friends, last but not least...we need friends.

I think we need friends more than we need sex but - that might be because I'm a woman...not sure...women feel free to contradict me...

Apart from the very useful purpose of having children, I think another good purpose of sex is so people are forced out of hiding from each other and staying away from each other...without it relationships might be so painful we'd just give up and all be hermits

Not that they are just 'pain' but I find a little pain can be very offputting...

Keep asking good question, SAF even if you get ridiculed for it (you probably will because it's threatening to people who don't want their self-denial exposed )

love
Helen