can guys really make this much progress in one year natrually?

[Big_Joe]

Sure it's possible. That doesn't mean he did it that way.

He's a 24 year old athlete with a great coach. Why not? Once I revamped my training, supplementation, and diet I gained 20 pounds of muscle in one year, drug free, at age 38.

I recently had a client ask me what stack I used before I took a certain picture that was on a website. I told him I'd never taken a steroid in my life up until that time. I think he got a little pissed. lol

We're all a little jaded by the lies and exaggerations. But that doesn't mean it can't be done. In many ways, I've seen guys progress BETTER while training naturally than guys who were juicing. That's because they worked harder and the guys using gear didn;t know what the fuck they were doing and just let the drugs give them the results -- which they promptly lost.

When it comes to professional sports though, I imagine they're all going to use whatever advantage they can.

This is absolutely true!! I didn't start using steroids until I was almost fifty. I looked as good as this guy, the picture of him doing the farmers walk, when I was in my twenties. It's like Arnold said, "steroids help you maybe ten percent. The rest is hard work." What kills me is all the first timers on here that write out their cycle and ask "How much do you think I will gain?" This has got to be the stupidest question I have seen on this forum and it comes up over and over again. It's not what you put into your body it what you put out with your body.

 

[Varga]

I really dont get it why some of you think that this so called "special training" will get anyone ready for the NFL..lol
It's all about our bodies ability to adapt and grow in ways we want to grow or most likely will not grow the way we want them to grow...and if the hormons are not there you will die trying...reagrdless of food, sleep or special training you may receive.

Why do you think ppl take steroids...if it could have been done naturally no one in their right mind would be interested in steroids but that's not the case as we all know!
Very few ppl have the genetics and hormonal output to make big gains...very few. Most of us cheat..lol

 

[timtim]

I really dont get it why some of you think that this so called "special training" will get anyone ready for the NFL..lol
It's all about our bodies ability to adapt and grow in ways we want to grow or most likely will not grow the way we want them to grow...and if the hormons are not there you will die trying...reagrdless of food, sleep or special training you may receive.

Why do you think ppl take steroids...if it could have been done naturally no one in their right mind would be interested in steroids but that's not the case as we all know!
Very few ppl have the genetics and hormonal output to make big gains...very few. Most of us cheat..lol

"special training"? have a little respect for defranco. dude would run circles around you in the gym without aas and then be able to explain why describing every motor unit that was used. the "special training" gets these guys prepared to blow up the combine and pro days. check his track record of guys hes prepared. flawless. until you have even the slightest clue who you are insulting, keep your ridiculous LOL'S to yourself.

 

[LiquidPhire]

judging by the two pictures I would have to say I believe him to juice. I mean come on if you were going to the nfl why wouldn't you take everything in your power to do so? Come on guys...

 

[perryscoon]

He obviously was on the juice in high school than got off for a while(in the gyno pic) and then went back on(in the last pic).

 

[LiquidPhire]

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It is difficult if not impossible to make a clinical diagnosis with only remote visual inspection, but based on the pictures I have seen I would be curious to see what his HgH levels are. Not just because HgH does not show up on the test panels they currently run for PEDs, but because of what I see as symptomatic acromegaly. HgH often causes the lower jaw and hands to continue growing, even in post pubescent adults with mature growth plates.

Again, not conclusive, but the gynecomastia and acromegaly are legitimate symptoms of a pituitary issue or PED usage.
"

Anyone else agree???

 

[Varga]

"special training"? have a little respect for defranco. dude would run circles around you in the gym without aas and then be able to explain why describing every motor unit that was used. the "special training" gets these guys prepared to blow up the combine and pro days. check his track record of guys hes prepared. flawless. until you have even the slightest clue who you are insulting, keep your ridiculous LOL'S to yourself.

Dude WTF? Who was talking about defranco?
Why did you neg rep me?
My whole fuck in point is that u need to have a good genetic make up to be able to train at the elite level! THis dude made some gains very questionable to be done natually judging from those pics. I wasnt questioning the training method just the fact that many ppl think that you can take any person with shitty genetics and make them NFL players...if that's the case everybody would be a freak in superstar!
And just because a trainer is against the use of AAS doesn't mean shit...ppl who think they can get away with it will still use it...look at Manny Ramirez!!
Although admirable that you defend defranco, I wasn't taking about him, bud!!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I think the fact that he was preparing for the NFL and that he obviously needed every ounce of edge he could get pretty much answers the question for you. I dont mean this in a negative way, but show me a NFL linebacker who doesnt use juice?

 

[Varga]

Yeah all that bulging muscles doesn't really go together with "natural"

Thanks bro!

 

[SaiBoT]

Thanks bro!

No problem.