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i recently placed an order for test enan. from overseas, and was wondering what was taking so long. The other day a received a letter from U.S. Customs. It said that a package to me had been intercepted by the U.S. govt and it's contents were illegal.
They gave me an option of having it destroyed, or taking it up in court. So my order will be destroyed by the feds now and I am shitting bricks. This ever happen to any of you guys? What happens if they get another package to me from overseas?
 
footballstud said:
i recently placed an order for test enan. from overseas, and was wondering what was taking so long. The other day a received a letter from U.S. Customs. It said that a package to me had been intercepted by the U.S. govt and it's contents were illegal.
They gave me an option of having it destroyed, or taking it up in court. So my order will be destroyed by the feds now and I am shitting bricks. This ever happen to any of you guys? What happens if they get another package to me from overseas?
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I would use a different name and address for your next overseas order :)
(or order Domestic)
 
never claim anything fromn customs tahst admitting it was yours they can't do anyhting unless u claim it so be carsefull in what they send you
 
Your addy is probably Flagged now ,throw the letter away and take it as a loss.

Shoot me a secure mail to where you got it from. my addy is below

RADAR
 
Take the loss, consider the letter as a warning; next time use a new addy, at least 30-40miles away from you location and tell the source to pack better
 
Where do you get another address to use? Something like a "mailboxes etc" that has boxes you can rent?
 
footballstud said:
i recently placed an order for test enan. from overseas, and was wondering what was taking so long. The other day a received a letter from U.S. Customs. It said that a package to me had been intercepted by the U.S. govt and it's contents were illegal.
They gave me an option of having it destroyed, or taking it up in court. So my order will be destroyed by the feds now and I am shitting bricks. This ever happen to any of you guys? What happens if they get another package to me from overseas?
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Caulk it up to the cost of doing business that way. I don't think you need to shit a brick, it is a standard letter you received, pretty common. You're most likely fine, but do change your name and address next time as suggested if you plan on trying again.
 
i had a buddy who ordered domestic. the postal inspectors and local authorities knocked on his door. domestic or international its all a roll of the dice
 
ninja900 said:
Where do you get another address to use? Something like a "mailboxes etc" that has boxes you can rent?
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bro...DO NOT use mailboxes etc. i read a post recently (p[osted by a reputable source) about detailed mailing procedures and it specifically stated them and how it's a very BAD idea. supposedly...they follow the're own rules and have every right to open your packages without notice. shit...i wish i could find the thread so i could post the link. i'm gonna see if i can locate it and post it later. just giving you a heads up. anybody else see this treat i'm talking about. dont remember if it was even an EF thread or another board.
 
turbogreek said:
bro...DO NOT use mailboxes etc. i read a post recently (p[osted by a reputable source) about detailed mailing procedures and it specifically stated them and how it's a very BAD idea. supposedly...they follow the're own rules and have every right to open your packages without notice. shit...i wish i could find the thread so i could post the link. i'm gonna see if i can locate it and post it later. just giving you a heads up. anybody else see this treat i'm talking about. dont remember if it was even an EF thread or another board.
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i dont think thats true
 
yeah I'm betting your address is now flagged, that would suck.

As for using real names, who cares, I would never cop to it being mine, on the other hand if you had a diligent postman he might just not deliver if he saw it was not your name, been there, done that.

Sure it’s no one I Would Know radar, I’m betting numbnuts bought from a web site somewhere, even if they are legit they are all being monitored by customs. Without saying where, Was that it football?
Too bad but there has to be some victims, unless they catch the obvious they will just dig deeper.
 
ninja900 said:
Where do you get another address to use? Something like a "mailboxes etc" that has boxes you can rent?
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I think that was the advice , and it's just my opinion but I disagree.
To get another mail box you usually have to show id. If you use a fake id that's mail fraud, worse than possession. So what does a separate mailbox get you then? Deniability ? NOT, you are going there to pick stuff up and you have a separate mailbox, that in itself looks suspicious. If someone comes to my door asking me to sign something I know I should not be signing for, that’s a known controllable situation. I suddenly become a dumbass. But that’s just my 2 cents.
 
footballstud said:
i recently placed an order for test enan. from overseas, and was wondering what was taking so long. The other day a received a letter from U.S. Customs. It said that a package to me had been intercepted by the U.S. govt and it's contents were illegal.
They gave me an option of having it destroyed, or taking it up in court. So my order will be destroyed by the feds now and I am shitting bricks. This ever happen to any of you guys? What happens if they get another package to me from overseas?
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I'd clean house just to be safe. If it was a small order then they prob. don't care but your addy may be flagged now. Go domestic or go home!
 
boston basher said:
Me either dont know where he got that info from!
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dude...i'm just telling you what i've read...thats all. this thread that i'm talking about came from a REALLY reliable source in the industry. it was a detailed thread with back up info...so being that all you specified is the you dont THINK so...i'm just telling you that there are a lot of fine lines that are overlooked when you sign up with mailboxes etc. it's a privately owned compnay that can make up whatever rules it wants. i'm still looking for the thread. so please somebody give other FACTS rather than "i dont think so".
 
turbogreek said:
dude...i'm just telling you what i've read...thats all. this thread that i'm talking about came from a REALLY reliable source in the industry. it was a detailed thread with back up info...so being that all you specified is the you dont THINK so...i'm just telling you that there are a lot of fine lines that are overlooked when you sign up with mailboxes etc. it's a privately owned compnay that can make up whatever rules it wants. i'm still looking for the thread. so please somebody give other FACTS rather than "i dont think so".
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Dude its not MBE that can look in your packs its the shipping companies... FedEx, DHL and UPS etc... they can... and in certain cases they CANT... the only ones that connot open your mail is USPS believe it or not.
 
patsfan1379 said:
Dude its not MBE that can look in your packs its the shipping companies... FedEx, DHL and UPS etc... they can... and in certain cases they CANT... the only ones that connot open your mail is USPS believe it or not.
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Yes its true. USPS will not open your pack while others can do it.
 
patsfan1379 said:
the only ones that connot open your mail is USPS believe it or not.
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i agree with you 100% on USPS. from my understanding...a PO box at the local PO is safer that a MBE. just what i know...doesnt mean you have to follow it... the sole purpose here is for informative purposes only. just trying to help my bros out.
 
I had that happen to me a few months ago. Mail boxes etc. tried to F me and get me to sign for it. Long story short I got the letter then received a follow on weather I want claim it or disgard it. The source ended up resending to my home and that got snagged even after I told him not to. Well I recived another letter from customs asking if I wanted to claim it or have it destroyed. It also stated that if I did not reply to them by a certain date that I could be fined. I had my lawyer look into it and he called the customs agent in charge. He stated that all I had to do was sign the form and check wheather or not I wanted to claim it or have nothing to do with it. So I signed it and claimed that it was not mine. Looing back now I should have ignored it but my wife found out and my lawyer said it was best to clear my name. The agent said if I didnt that it could come back to haunt me or be fined. Probably a scare tactic. Now both my addresses are flagged. I closed the MB etc. and will never deal with them. I now go domestic and send it to sisters house. hehe
 
i think most of the time unless your source declares your stuff as bloody explosives, steroids and live organs from afganistan... you should be ok...

:)
 
Ulter said:
I agree with what everyone is telling you.
You don't have to worry about it, just toss the letter. You'll get another one, toss that too.
Use a different address and let your source know so he can resend the order and is aware that they are on to him. So he changes his packaging and postal shipping point.
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How do you get another mailing address in a different name? Unlike tunaboy i have no sister to ship stuff too...
 
turbogreek said:
dude...i'm just telling you what i've read...thats all. this thread that i'm talking about came from a REALLY reliable source in the industry. it was a detailed thread with back up info...so being that all you specified is the you dont THINK so...i'm just telling you that there are a lot of fine lines that are overlooked when you sign up with mailboxes etc. it's a privately owned compnay that can make up whatever rules it wants. i'm still looking for the thread. so please somebody give other FACTS rather than "i dont think so".
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guys i remember the thread he was talking about a few months ago. i dont remember all of the details, but one i remember was that if you use a MBE or whatever, do NOT use a fictitious name/address for the sender, because they will know its not a good address and will put up a flag. he said pick an address and name out of the phone book because not having a return address looks suspicious also...
there was more but i dont recall it all.
 
chyllaxyn said:
To get another mail box you usually have to show id. If you use a fake id that's mail fraud, worse than possession. .
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showing false ID to get a box (especially a nonm-USPS box) doesnt sound like mail fraud based on below, but check with a lawyer


MAIL FRAUD - 18 U.S.C. 1341, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to use the United States mails in carrying out a scheme to defraud.

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved: First: That the person knowingly and willfully devised a scheme to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false pretenses, representations or promises; and Second: That the person used the United States Postal Service by mailing, or by causing to be mailed, some matter or thing for the purpose of executing the scheme to defraud.


DEFRAUD To deprive of some right, interest, or property, by a
deceitful device; to withhold from wrongfully; to injure by
embezzlement;
 
or for obtaining money or property by means of false pretenses, representations or promises;


hmmm.. sounds exactly like mail fraud using a false id to get a box for obtaining property (gear) by means of false representations (fake id)
how much more clearer could they have put it ?
 
LVTitan said:
or for obtaining money or property by means of false pretenses, representations or promises;


hmmm.. sounds exactly like mail fraud using a false id to get a box for obtaining property (gear) by means of false representations (fake id)
how much more clearer could they have put it ?
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I'm pretty sure "obtaining" in context doesnt mean merely "receiving", but rather requires wrongfully depriving someone else of property/money (conversion).

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The USPS can most def open any package they want. I've seen it happen. They technically have to get a warrant but since they are quasi-government, it is easier than you could imagine. And once they do and they open your package, be prepared for the worst. My advise is to get to know your mail-man and know the person who does the route when he is off. If you notice a different carrier delivering your package.....don't accept it and tell them it must be a mistake because you are not expecting anything. The USPS uses its postal investigators for these kinds of things as to keep the normal carrier out of danger, both while delivering the illegal goods and after the bust.
 
The important thing is you may never break the law,

1. Only import medicine you have been prescribed by doctor.
2. Use your real information. (So that mail is not lost, or so you do not find yourself violating Mail Fraud laws as above+)
3. Make sure any roomates etc in your house do not store any illegal items in your house, as the authorities may think these are yours.
4.Make sure the registered pharmacy ships the items in a way that will get to your destination. (make sure they pack "good")
I would avoid all po boxes and mail boxes etc, as well as cariers such as fed ex etc. for the reasons that they are 1 unreliable and 2. the constitution does not apply to them as it does to the govt., basically their contract overridees that.
 
Djicy said:
friend, grandma?
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You mean to have illegal stuff sent to a friend or someone in the family without telling them about it? I don't know, I would never do that, they could get into troubles. What a mess it could be...
 
yarpic said:
You mean to have illegal stuff sent to a friend or someone in the family without telling them about it? I don't know, I would never do that, they could get into troubles. What a mess it could be...
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You can't tell your friend about it? I use my grandma and tell her if a product comes for Dick Hurtz its mine if someone asks who Dick Hurtz is she has no clue simple enough no harm done there.

Honestly don't have a close enough friend to help you out here?
 
Dick Hurtz....i would refrain from using that name...sounds just a littel suspicious
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Dick Hurtz....i would refrain from using that name...sounds just a littel suspicious
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Thats just an example I use names like Frank Carlisle shit like that.
 
Well The source resent the order because I tought they were fucking me. They day they resent, I got the notice from the feds. Will 2 packages be caught and will i be fucked? BTW, my newbie ass used real name and addy!!!! I'm an idiot I know. Should i just take this in the loss column, call a lawyer, get ready for jail??
 
footballstud said:
Well The source resent the order because I tought they were fucking me. They day they resent, I got the notice from the feds. Will 2 packages be caught and will i be fucked? BTW, my newbie ass used real name and addy!!!! I'm an idiot I know. Should i just take this in the loss column, call a lawyer, get ready for jail??
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Resent ALREADY :eek2: You just posted this thread yesterady :p :o

I hope you DIDNT send it to the same address again...If so you can probably kiss this one goodbye too :( (though a GOOD int'l probably wouldnt send to the same addy again :o
 
footballstud said:
they DID!! do i call a lawyer???
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Nope, just sit back and wait for your second customs letter...

If you get a knock at the door asking you to sign for an int'l package I would refuse it if I were you...:o

These are things you need to resolve BEFORE ordering your stuff though...
Chalk it up as a lesson learned for you (hopefully...), and maybe others too...
 
footballstud said:
I live with 3 others. What if they sign for it?
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If in the unlikely event a controlled delivery WERE being executed then a signature by ANY of your roomates would probalby make a warrant valid and then you could run into some problems...:(

If its for a small amount though chances are good if it gets snagged again you will just get another letter...:o

If you are ordering a LARGE amount then that's another story :( (Dont come out and say how much you ordered OUT HERE though)...That will ONLY serve to open pandoras box :o
 
Hello Everyone, Thanks for all the great information and intelligent discussions on this board. (first post) After years of successfully receiving suppliments from overseas I received the dreaded U.S. Customs letter in November. After sending the supplier a copy of the letter and a new address they reshipped. Unfortuneately they reshipped to the original address. Fortuneately I received it no problem. I conclude that if address are flagged it is clearly hit and miss. Do they really have time to look up the address on everyone of millions of packages? Appparently not. I thought this post might help everyone to breath easier. Best Wishes to all, Metisse
 
metisse said:
Hello Everyone, Thanks for all the great information and intelligent discussions on this board. (first post) After years of successfully receiving suppliments from overseas I received the dreaded U.S. Customs letter in November. After sending the supplier a copy of the letter and a new address they reshipped. Unfortuneately they reshipped to the original address. Fortuneately I received it no problem. I conclude that if address are flagged it is clearly hit and miss. Do they really have time to look up the address on everyone of millions of packages? Appparently not. I thought this post might help everyone to breath easier. Best Wishes to all, Metisse
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i dont think so dude... just to be safe I would get a new address... Trust me, the address is somehow flagged especially since 9/11 etc... its simple for a person to scan a pack, addy and then the computer will pop it up automatically.

They keep track of that stuff. Trust me.
 
It's happened to me twice. I don't think they flagg your addy, but better safe than sorry. Don't send the letter back in, just act like you never got it.
 
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