bunker!

[Spartacus]

Excellent thread in my opinion 4ever, very interesting website, I went through alot of it, the fact that most people cant see past their own times and view the world, geopolitics and the history of war in anything more than today and the last two weeks, it becomes pointless to even attempt to discuss issues. It would take many years of reading materiale such as this and a passion for knowing for them to discuss things outside of their ego and understand and learn the world around us.

I started at age 9

 

[Spartacus]

"decades"






DIV

fuck you,
better answer
I just used "these days" as in particular she used "these days"
as well as in the Borodino speech
which was separate

 

[DIVISION]

fuck you,
better answer

"Ice Age"






DIV

 

[Spartacus]

"Ice Age"






DIV

no,"decades" nailed it

I always felt Ian was thinking of the war

american peeps don't understand

the wall
by floyd is equally moving

 

[Spartacus]

"Next is a button from a Russian padded jacket. There are plenty of them on the hills of Bukrin. Civilians were forced to take part in the Korsun battle as well. Around 30,000 of the dead were civilians. They were from neighbouring towns and villages where all the archives were destroyed. Now we don't know their names, neither do we know how many died. All that is left of those people can be placed in a matchbox."

 

[DIVISION]

no,"decades" nailed it

I always felt Ian was thinking of the war

"here are the young men, the weight on their shoulders......here are the young men, but where have they been?"

"where have they been?"

"where have they been?"

"where have they been?"



It's something we'll never understand until it's too late, bro.

The torment and trauma is something that I can't fathom and I hope I don't live long enough to see it......the things Ian Curtis describes in that song scare me. Not so much what he describes, but what he doesn't describe.....the possible interpretations left open....

His voice is so detached and apathatic, it's as if he was already dead and suicide was just a formality.

I truly wonder what it's like to be so depressed that you are actually looking forward to death, as a form of freedom from life's chains. That's apparently what the allure was for Ian.







DIV

 

[Spartacus]

and "we" thought we pulled our weight at normandy
losing perhaps 2K
and the soviets and the germans are dropping 250K in weeks
heh

 

[Spartacus]

"here are the young men, the weight on their shoulders......here are the young men, but where have they been?"

"where have they been?"

"where have they been?"

"where have they been?"



It's something we'll never understand until it's too late, bro.

The torment and trauma is something that I can't fathom and I hope I don't live long enough to see it......the things Ian Curtis describes in that song scare me. Not so much what he describes, but what he doesn't describe.....the possible interpretations left open....

His voice is so detached and apathatic, it's as if he was already dead and suicide was just a formality.

I truly wonder what it's like to be so depressed that you are actually looking forward to death, as a form of freedom from life's chains. That's apparently what the allure was for Ian.







DIV

what he desribes I just presented to the board

 

[Spartacus]

"here are the young men, the weight on their shoulders......here are the young men, but where have they been?"

"where have they been?"

"where have they been?"

"where have they been?"



It's something we'll never understand until it's too late, bro.

The torment and trauma is something that I can't fathom and I hope I don't live long enough to see it......the things Ian Curtis describes in that song scare me. Not so much what he describes, but what he doesn't describe.....the possible interpretations left open....

His voice is so detached and apathatic, it's as if he was already dead and suicide was just a formality.

I truly wonder what it's like to be so depressed that you are actually looking forward to death, as a form of freedom from life's chains. That's apparently what the allure was for Ian.







DIV

you missed the point
what was particularlary attractive about Elena's observatines was how she was so balanced
here she hails from a region which suffered an attrition rate of 97% kIA

 

[Spartacus]

"here are the young men, the weight on their shoulders......here are the young men, but where have they been?"

"where have they been?"

"where have they been?"

"where have they been?"



It's something we'll never understand until it's too late, bro.

The torment and trauma is something that I can't fathom and I hope I don't live long enough to see it......the things Ian Curtis describes in that song scare me. Not so much what he describes, but what he doesn't describe.....the possible interpretations left open....

His voice is so detached and apathatic, it's as if he was already dead and suicide was just a formality.

I truly wonder what it's like to be so depressed that you are actually looking forward to death, as a form of freedom from life's chains. That's apparently what the allure was for Ian.







DIV

You do realize I've been a mortician for over a decade?