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Brock lesner

chilisauce1 said:
LMAO...everyone's an expert on MMA these days. Lesner will dominate. Just give him time.

I fight mma and I can say with certainty that just because he looks the part doesnt mean anything. Everyone thinks they can fight mma until they get in the cage and experience the mental aspect of it, the chess match. The smarter fighter will win 90% of the time. He has the tools but does he have the chin and the brains, that remains to be seen.
 
rfowler said:
I fight mma and I can say with certainty that just because he looks the part doesnt mean anything. Everyone thinks they can fight mma until they get in the cage and experience the mental aspect of it, the chess match. The smarter fighter will win 90% of the time. He has the tools but does he have the chin and the brains, that remains to be seen.

the same thing goes for amateur wrestling and he did pretty well there.

as far as his steroids-- he was busted with IGF-1 a long time ago but i dont think that physique came from IGF-1. He is a naturally big strong guy but cmon..... Test Suspension right up to the fight.
 
chilisauce1 said:
LMAO...everyone's an expert on MMA these days. Lesner will dominate. Just give him time.
OMG! whatever dude, listen to yourself. I think you're the one who is trying to be the "expert" here :rolleyes: . I was simply stating something that is kinda common sense. If you're one dimensional and the only thing you're good at is wrestling, and you have no stand-up game, then you're not going to get very far. It doesn't take a fuckin "expert"like I apparently am, according to you, to know that. The key word in my earlier post was the word IF.
 
chilisauce1 said:
LMAO...everyone's an expert on MMA these days. Lesner will dominate. Just give him time.


Just like everyone thought, myself included, that crocop would run through the HW division here. Remember when Lesnar tried to play ball? He was getting "BEASTED" by practice squad lineman. Point is, someone who's been doing something since they were 12 is going to be better than someone, no matter how physically gifted......has been doing for a short period of time. You know how many schools these guys train with before they're anything in MMA? And they've been doing it since they were in high school. Lesnar was a great wrestler from what I've heard, but how good do outright wrestlers do in the UFC? It's a component, just like submissions are and just like standup is. Doesn't take an expert to see that the best fighters in the world are very, very, very well rounded. That takes years to develop. You put Lesnar in the ring with even a second tier HW like Vera.....he's getting owned.
 
crazyjoe said:
OMG! whatever dude, listen to yourself. I think you're the one who is trying to be the "expert" here :rolleyes: . I was simply stating something that is kinda common sense. If you're one dimensional and the only thing you're good at is wrestling, and you have no stand-up game, then you're not going to get very far. It doesn't take a fuckin "expert"like I apparently am, according to you, to know that. The key word in my earlier post was the word IF.

Jake O'brien is a one dimensional wrestler, who is undefeated. Cheick Kongo only has striking and can't stay off his back. Both are top ten. Brock Lesner can hang with any top heavyweight.
 
redsamurai said:
Just like everyone thought, myself included, that crocop would run through the HW division here. Remember when Lesnar tried to play ball? He was getting "BEASTED" by practice squad lineman. Point is, someone who's been doing something since they were 12 is going to be better than someone, no matter how physically gifted......has been doing for a short period of time. You know how many schools these guys train with before they're anything in MMA? And they've been doing it since they were in high school. Lesnar was a great wrestler from what I've heard, but how good do outright wrestlers do in the UFC? It's a component, just like submissions are and just like standup is. Doesn't take an expert to see that the best fighters in the world are very, very, very well rounded. That takes years to develop. You put Lesnar in the ring with even a second tier HW like Vera.....he's getting owned.

No one will "Beast" Lesner on the mats.

Lesner currently trains wrestling with the 2007 ncaa HW wrestling champ.

He is the new breed of fighter.
 
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