Botched Cycle PCT - Help

[dr_skier]

Ok, so last May I decided to go back on, give me that edge for being in shape for the summer etc.... mission acomplished. I was in pretty damn good shape this summer, big, tanned, jacked up sex drive from the test etc. I basically ran 8 weeks of tren a and test e. followed by test E at 350mg/week since then. It has been good, great sex drive, strong etc. The problem is I didn't want to come off in the middle of the summer and face a sex drive loss, I live for the summer!

So My full plan was to come off end of august, recover and train naturally. Then my gf left me. Well she moved away and we're done, so I didn't want to come off and face a depressing time of no sex drive, espically being newly single. Anyways getting busy with school and work and being kinda down about my girl i let my diet slip a bit... it is literally AMAZING how little it takes to let your diet slip and throw on a quick 8-10lbs. I mean the littlest things. Anyhow we have that under good controll now.

So my plan is likely to be out doing some travelling in thailand and auz in jan/feb (where i'll be apart of wakebaording camps, scuba, muai thai camp, and going to the gym) So i'll be nice and active.

However I want to have the ol sex drive back for my vacation obviously.

Bascially I think I'm gonna come off last week of nov. Train ridiculously hard for the next 3 weeks while im still anabolically enhanced. However I have been on a long time so i'd love to know some pointers from those who run long cycles to getting my mojo back quickly. Lucily It's only been test that i've been cruising on.

Anyhow i'll be using clomid and hcg, and probably a boat load of trib and other supps...i was thinking about using the 10mg am dbol routine through dec because i've read a lot of interesting info on it, and it might be a gentler way to come off, and i know lots of people have their reservations about it.

I was also thinking while i travel I should pick up some proviron out there and go 50mg a day feb/march.

Just to go over the time frame, i'm thinking last shot, Nov 30th. And i'll probably venture out of here Jan 15, so in essence 6 weeks to recover.

Thanks for the input...

 

[justinjones1963]

IMO I would stick to a standard PCT protocol. HCH, clomid etc. Some people here swear by Primordial Performance products so you may want to throw that in. I personally am not an advocate of the dbol bridge / low dbol dosages but I know others will differ with me on that.

A big thing is traveling with gear, especially overseas. I am not sure what the steroid laws are in Thailand but I know they love throwing people in jail for long periods of time for narcotics (especially American / Australian tourists). Drug possession is serious business over there.

Whatever you decide be safe.

 

[dr_skier]

dont worry, i wouldn't bring anything, i'd find the proviron in thailand at a pharm....

and for anyone else reading, im not some monkey kid who botched a cycle cause he didn't train or didn't lock down his diet, i just didn't come off when i should have and am worried about a long/slow recovery.

 

[702daswoll1]

I feel ya. I hate to come off. Been cruising/cycling for over 9 months now. You never told us ur age.

 

[DJ_UFO]

In my opinion, if I was you, I'd stop test NOW, and start HCG immediately. Use clomid and I'm a big fan of high quality OTC supplements like dermacrine sustain, unleashed, post-cycle, myogenx, agxsports, they really will make you feel "on" in every single aspect; they will fix your libido too. If you want a hard steel pipe, get some viagra or cialis for that special night; proviron, being a steroid, will keep hurting your natty hormone levels.

 

[justinjones1963]

dont worry, i wouldn't bring anything, i'd find the proviron in thailand at a pharm....

and for anyone else reading, im not some monkey kid who botched a cycle cause he didn't train or didn't lock down his diet, i just didn't come off when i should have and am worried about a long/slow recovery.

I didn't get the impression at all you were just screwing around/monkey kid etc. we all make PCT/cycles mistakes (myself included!) You'll be on the right track once you hit PCT. Also I agree with DJ UFO's advice above.

What I would also do is maybe get a log going by starting a thread etc. That way you can monitor your progress and get feedback which is helpful.

 

[dr_skier]

I'm young, but not in experienced. 24.

 

[needtogetaas]

In my opinion, if I was you, I'd stop test NOW, and start HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - immediately. Use clomid and I'm a big fan of high quality OTC supplements like dermacrine sustain, unleashed, post-cycle, myogenx, agxsports, they really will make you feel "on" in every single aspect; they will fix your libido too. If you want a hard steel pipe, get some viagra or cialis for that special night; proviron, being a steroid, will keep hurting your natty hormone levels.

I start to like your post more and more every day.

 

[jumpmaster82]

yea bro it ALWAYS sucks to come off your gear. But setimss you just gota go through that shit. HCG and clomid should be good. If I were you I would think about a low dose of arimidex. Good luck bro

 

[dr_skier]

def will throw in the low dose arimidex....
gonna come off in 2 weeks, hit the pct hard. thanks for the input boys.. hopefully my recovery wont be horrible, it usually is worst coming off any kinda tren then stopping test anytime close to that...

 

[njmuscleguy]

I agree with DJ and stop now and get recovered as quickly as possible...run your H C G (as well as your a-dex...run that for 3-5 days after the H C G)... at that point, you CAN run clo-mid... if you've run it before and you can tolerate its sides and it works for recovery, then don't change that...50mg ED for up to 4-6 weeks.

You have some other options though... instead of cl-omid, which I personally hate (sides were awful and I never fully recovered), run the OTC product Sustain for 4-6 weeks instead. This stuff worked great for me and is become more and more tried and true on here.

DON'T use d-bol, DON'T use proviron... it will keep you suppressed and only delay the inevitable crash... believe me, I've tried both in all kinds of P C T regimens and they didn't help avoid crash.

If you want a nice "bridge" into P C T, stop your current cycle when your schedule dictates...run the original Dermacrine for 4 weeks... run your H C G sometime between now and the end of the Dermacrine (500iu ED for 10-14 days)...run your arimidex at the same time.... then when you come off Dermacrine, start the Sustain (4-6 weeks). Trust me, this works very nicely. I just had my workout partner use Sustain for the first time after a 4-month tr-en, E Q, and test cycle and he feels amazing.

Good luck bro!

 

[Nelson Montana]

In my opinion, if I was you, I'd stop test NOW, and start HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - immediately. Use clomid and I'm a big fan of high quality OTC supplements like dermacrine sustain, unleashed, post-cycle, myogenx, agxsports, they really will make you feel "on" in every single aspect; they will fix your libido too. If you want a hard steel pipe, get some viagra or cialis for that special night; proviron, being a steroid, will keep hurting your natty hormone levels.

Listen to UFO. And by the way, a double dose of UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE works like a dose of viagra. At a fraction of the cost.