Bloodwork done...total test BAD!

[abomb]

Are you still planning on getting back on susp/prop in a couple of weeks? If so, get on some Tribulus until you start. Run the cycle. Use better PCT when you get done. Get your levels checked again. If they are still low, PCT again. Low again, PCT again.

 

[get456]

Yep guys, NCAA bans CLOMID NOLVA AND HCG. I even emailed them and checked.

yea i know guys, I've went through this discussion already. I realize I went too long and didnt follow through with long enough PCT. What can I do now?

I kept at least half of the lean mass that I put on. I would say 10-12 lbs kept.
Strength maintained untill about 2 months ago when it really started to plumet. I'm stronger than I was before but not my much. Libido is fine, same.

First of all... PROPS for not coming off like an asshole about how you "needed" that much blah blah like SO MANY guys would have.

I think your case is a perfect study on what long/high dosages esp for a "newbie" can do. Little mass actually gained, severe reduction in natural levels (which can lead to even less kept!) and now sitting there saying wtf do i do now??

I think everyone else made good points about NEEDING to take more PCT... at this point even going to the dr and getting some HRT so you can take it legally while you are trying out or whatever... AFTER all that shit is done, then work hard on getting ur natural levels back up with HCG specifically... At your age/size I doubt that a few more weeks/months at this point will do any serious long term damage that isnt already done... so at least focus on assuring your performance in your chosen sport is 100%

 

[bigcountry61]

that is an insane first cycle. No wonder ur levels are all fucked up !!!

u would have seen same results on 500 mgs of test a week!!! ur pct should have went alot longer !!!

 

[GymIntensity]

Yep guys, NCAA bans CLOMID NOLVA AND HCG. I even emailed them and checked.

yea i know guys, I've went through this discussion already. I realize I went too long and didnt follow through with long enough PCT. What can I do now?

I kept at least half of the lean mass that I put on. I would say 10-12 lbs kept.
Strength maintained untill about 2 months ago when it really started to plumet. I'm stronger than I was before but not my much. Libido is fine, same.

The part of this quote that says only 10-12 lbs kept , gives me one thought.
Your cycle was a complete fucking waste.

LOL< sorry thats just reality not tryin to be an ass. Running that much I would scared to line up with you on the field. I also assume most guys recommend about 4 weeks of PCT, thats what I thought on way milder cycles so hell maybe 5 weeks +, I'm not really sure what the longest PCT would look like for advanced cycles with that much gear.

 

[g35mann]

10 pounds? after that much gear? People are getting better gaisn off of a 3 week tbol cycle lol.

What did your diet and training look like.

 

[AHOVA]

diet was about 6,000 cal. 300gms protein/day
training was a intense 4 day/wk westside barbell program.

I was up about 24 lbs retained about half of that... I don't think it was a total waste, but I think I could have went about it much much smarter and efficiently.

 

[dbgclub111]

Will the NCAA be screening for Clomid & HCG? I don't think they will. There is no reason to use anymore Clomid anyway if you are going to start another test cycle in 3 weeks. You will end up just shutting down your natty levels again. After this next cycle PCT longer. You definitely did not go long enough the first time. Do something like this:

Week 1 - 200 mg Clomid ed/20mg of Nolva/500 iu HCG ed
Week 2 - 150 mg Clomid ed/20mg Nolva ed/500 iu HCG ed
Week 3 - 100 mg Clomid ed/20mg Nolva ed
Week 4 - 50 mg Clomid ed/20mg Nolva ed

Basically go 4 weeks instead of 2.5.

do you recommend the L-Clo and L - Nol from Ag Guys? I just received it also came with something called L-Cle? that i didn't order any idea what that is?

thanks

 

[AHOVA]

thanks guys, keep the advice comming!

 

[timtim]

real good attitude about the whole thing.

live and learn. maybe talk to your doc and see what he can do. if your test is all f'ed up now, running another cycle isnt the best idea. you want homeostasis before starting up again or this could be a life long issue with the low test.

 

[cboogsrun]

Guys, I just got my bloodwork back from the dr. MY TOTAL TESTOSTERONE IS 182! THE RANGE SAYS ITS 240-950! I'm a 22 year old fb. player (6'4", 290) who has only one cycle under his belt. PCT ended 5 months ago!

20 weeks of prop 900-1100/wk
1-10 w/ tren act. 700/wk
11-18 var at 50/wk

My pct was 2.5 weeks of clomid and nolva
I also took 10 500iu shots of HCG

I'm kinda freaked out?! I cant PCT again because the NCAA comes around here in a couple weeks for camp, and im planning a prop/suspension cycle following that. Do I just have nat. low test levels?

Why would you take such heavy doses being it was your first cycle? 20 weeks is a long time to be on. I would try some natty stuff like tribulus and things of that sort along with another pct. I hope this is a joke.