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Bloodwork done...total test BAD!

get456 said:
First cycle... 20 weeks... GRAM a week of test, total of almost 2 GRAMS per week of gear for first 10 weeks... Destroyed test levels... PCT wasnt effective....

I continue to be astounded....


ya, that's a crazy first cycle
 
cboogsrun said:
anyone can weigh 290, thats easy. How much body comp change did he have? If he put on only 12lbs and lowered his body fat by 10% then he would actually have put on 31lbs of muscle. Which is a good cycle. I just think its crazy to run so much your first time. His next cycles are gonna be shit in comparison. sorry 41lbs

This guy is a football player not a bodybuilder, 14% @ 290 is pretty damn good if you ask me. His next cycles will not be shit in comparison, he can lower the dose use different compounds and adjust diet accordingly.
 
Ehy dont you try a test booster? Somthinkg like axis HT or isa test? Or viraloid? From what i understand these test boosters willget your test levels stable within a month or so.....you can get them at GNC for about 69$.....and even if you do get tested if your test levels are that low it wont even show up because its just helping your levels get back to normal........just a thought.

Good luck!
 
Destroyer1986 said:
This guy is a football player not a bodybuilder, 14% @ 290 is pretty damn good if you ask me. His next cycles will not be shit in comparison, he can lower the dose use different compounds and adjust diet accordingly.

I wasn't knocking him. Just trying to show the change in body comp by lowering body fat, he actually gained more muscle than 12 lbs leads people to believe. However the amounts and length of cycle for a first timer were severe to say the least. He was on for 40% of the year and is wondering why his body isn't back to normal. I believe progression is the key to long term use. Its kinda like trying heroin for your first drug.
 
cboogsrun said:
I wasn't knocking him. Just trying to show the change in body comp by lowering body fat, he actually gained more muscle than 12 lbs leads people to believe. However the amounts and length of cycle for a first timer were severe to say the least. He was on for 40% of the year and is wondering why his body isn't back to normal. I believe progression is the key to long term use. Its kinda like trying heroin for your first drug.

Yep I agree the amounts are pretty extreme for a first time cycle, 700mg of tren a week, im barely breaking 350.
 
When are you going to be tested? If it isnt for a while I would run some tribbulus type of supplement along with ZMA and nolva for about a month or so. And if you arent going to be tested for a while then run 500ius of HCG for 10 days straight.
 
It took nine months before my test levels started to rebound a little after using tren and using hcg/clomid. The stuff is very supressive.
 
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