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timtim said:
his arm is nearly 4 inches larger than the cuff allows. its not accurate, he needs the larger cuff size, then it would be accurate.
you're saying his reading is high because the cuff is small? that's funny, that it has nothing to do with steroids and diet. thank you, doctor.
 
you're saying his reading is high because the cuff is small? that's funny, that it has nothing to do with steroids and diet. thank you, doctor.

ya i am saying its the cuff. the cuff is for arms up to 13 inches. when your arm is nearly 4 inches larger than the cuff the pressure reading will be way off. this is old news, everyone knows this. sorry if that fact is shocking to you. and my doc verified because i take my home bp daily and i had to get a larger cuff because the readings were way off using the regualr sized cuff. personal experience, do you have any with bp and bp monitors? i do. and i'm right.
 
timtim said:
ya i am saying its the cuff. the cuff is for arms up to 13 inches. when your arm is nearly 4 inches larger than the cuff the pressure reading will be way off. this is old news, everyone knows this. sorry if that fact is shocking to you. and my doc verified because i take my home bp daily and i had to get a larger cuff because the readings were way off using the regualr sized cuff. personal experience, do you have any with bp and bp monitors? i do. and i'm right.
you sound like a fucking teenager. i've been on bp meds for some time now. i have a home monitor. 160/100+ is bad news. a person with low bp and big arms will not get a high reading, regardless of cuff size. and any guys who pushes a fucking lawn mower around his yard once a week will have arms bigger than 13''.....lol.
 
HumanTarget said:
you sound like a fucking teenager. i've been on bp meds for some time now. i have a home monitor. 160/100+ is bad news. a person with low bp and big arms will not get a high reading, regardless of cuff size. and any guys who pushes a fucking lawn mower around his yard once a week will have arms bigger than 13''.....lol.


YOU ARE WRONG BRO.......i get a WAY high reading in those and i get a WAY high reading when a doctor uses a cuff for a normal sized arm. I've been in and out of surgeries for years and i know this for a FACT. they have a bigger cuff they use for big arms. I have went when i wasn't on anything and the small cuff will give a higher reading.

Im not saying he might not have high blood pressure, but i do know those walmart machines will give me a crazy high reading if i force enough of my armd down in there.

So, you WILL most DEFINITELY get a higher reading on taht maching if you stick 19" arms in there, or even 17", i am absolutely 100000% positive on this

Call your local doctor and ask him of you don't believe me. they don't carry an oversized cuff for nothing
 
drrman said:
YOU ARE WRONG BRO.......i get a WAY high reading in those and i get a WAY high reading when a doctor uses a cuff for a normal sized arm. I've been in and out of surgeries for years and i know this for a FACT. they have a bigger cuff they use for big arms. I have went when i wasn't on anything and the small cuff will give a higher reading.

Im not saying he might now have high blood pressure, but i do know those walmart machines will give me a crazy high reading if i force enough of my armd down in there.

So, you WILL most DEFINITELY get a higher reading on taht maching if you stick 19" arms in there, or even 17", i am absolutely 100000% positive on this
i guess my doctor is wrong too. and my home monitor. so i shouldn't be on bp meds because drman said so. thanks, DR.....
 
HumanTarget said:
i guess my doctor is wrong too. and my home monitor. so i shouldn't be on bp meds because drman said so. thanks, DR.....


DUDE, im NOT saying you shouldn't be on BP meds, NOT AT ALL.....where in the hell are you getting that??

maybe you don't have a huge arm, i dont know, but an OVERSIZED ARM WILL MOST DEFINITELY GIVE A SCREWED UP READING!!

do you have 19" arms? i dont' know if you do or not, but i am telling you this as an absolute fact, i've had my blood pressure taken MORE TIMES THAN I CAN REMEMBER, and when i would go to a nurse and tell them to make sure they get the bigger cuff they ALWAYS do for this VERY REASON

so calm down man, i don't know how you got from this that i think you don't have high BP, i don't know if you do or not, i never mentioned that, but a small cuff on a large arm gives a higher reading!!! that is exactly why the make the larger cuffs my friend!!
 
I do have high bp, it runs in my family but usually never that high. I knew that from the beginning. I had it under control mostly with just diet and excersize for the longest time before I started my cycle. But when I sat down I freaked. I am now more curious as to whether if I get bp meds prescribed will that have any affects with the cycle bad or good or indifferent. Human target sounds like you are both On cycle and bp meds is that true? if so any bad sides from both?
 
drrman said:
DUDE, im NOT saying you shouldn't be on BP meds, NOT AT ALL.....where in the hell are you getting that??

maybe you don't have a huge arm, i dont know, but an OVERSIZED ARM WILL MOST DEFINITELY GIVE A SCREWED UP READING!!

do you have 19" arms? i dont' know if you do or not, but i am telling you this as an absolute fact, i've had my blood pressure taken MORE TIMES THAN I CAN REMEMBER, and when i would go to a nurse and tell them to make sure they get the bigger cuff they ALWAYS do for this VERY REASON

so calm down man, i don't know how you got from this that i think you don't have high BP, i don't know if you do or not, i never mentioned that, but a small cuff on a large arm gives a higher reading!!! that is exactly why the make the larger cuffs my friend!!
pretty damn close to 19 bud. i went round and round with my doc about bp. first, the nurses at the hospital said my 160/100+ was "really not that high" for me being athletic and so on. then my primary care puts me on a bp med because they said it was definitely needing to be lowered. i was assured that the home models and retail outlet monitors were usually (less it was broken) with in range. i was told as long as the cuff stayed in place, it would read correctly.
 
Agreed, those monitors at Walmart or any store for that matter should never be trusted (or used for that matter)... if BP is a constant concern of yours, especially if on AAS, then you should get a home monitor... an Omron wil run between $50-$85 bucks, and they're pretty accurate. Also keep in mind that BP fluctuates constantly throughout the day.... you can get a high reading at one point and perfectly normal reading several hours later

by the way, if you do have high BP, and you don't want to get onto BP meds right away, take lots of ginger and garlic...they will do a nice job and helping reduce BP
 
HumanTarget said:
pretty damn close to 19 bud. i went round and round with my doc about bp. first, the nurses at the hospital said my 160/100+ was "really not that high" for me being athletic and so on. then my primary care puts me on a bp med because they said it was definitely needing to be lowered. i was assured that the home models and retail outlet monitors were usually (less it was broken) with in range. i was told as long as the cuff stayed in place, it would read correctly.


well bro, we can agree to disagree if you want. I don't know anything about those "home" test deals, but i do know if i go to the doctor today i will get two different readings with the two different cuffs they have. I have been through that on many occassions when visiting the doctor. Now im not saying they are 40 points off, but there is definitely some variation. Im sure if you use the same device over and over then you can guage what your BP is doing relative to the last time you checked it anyways. But like i said, if i force part of my arm in a wal mart bp machine i will get some crazy high readings, off the chart readings

Im sure there are variables in your diagnosis etc that im unaware of also, so its all good bro..
 
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