biceps suck!!!

[go2failure]

I'm not going to get into what weider principles or whatever will shock the bicepts and get them to grow (I think my stance is pretty well known and fairly evident if one looks around the gym) - suffice to say...there is nothing in this world that can be done in the gym to alter the shape of a muscle. When you have bigger bis, you will have bigger peaks, but the general proportionality of the 'peak' (i.e. reshaping) cannot be changed.

For most people I will agree with you, however, I have personally changed the way my biceps look through various goals of my training (bodybuilding, powerlifting, etc etc--I do both).... I have developed huge biceps with very little peak, small bellies with cannonball peaks, and a combo of both. BTW, this is not easy for me to do--I have to bust my ass for months to achieve what I'm after. It all depends on the extremes a person takes in training and the genetics available to play with.

 

[Madcow2]

Well - if you wish to believe that your dedicated training has allowed you to circumvent anatomy and physiology 101 you are welcome to do so. However, every source in existence will tell you it's not possible to change the shape of a muscle.

Note: not muscle group - we are talking a single muscle so maybe something in the way you've developed your arms has accentuated the appearance in one way or another providing the illusion that the shape of a single muscle has changed.

 

[go2failure]

Well - if you wish to believe that your dedicated training has allowed you to circumvent anatomy and physiology 101 you are welcome to do so. However, every source in existence will tell you it's not possible to change the shape of a muscle.

Note: not muscle group - we are talking a single muscle so maybe something in the way you've developed your arms has accentuated the appearance in one way or another providing the illusion that the shape of a single muscle has changed.

I don't believe in "one model/one knowledge" fits all theory or its sentiments. Just because a book or self-appointed expert "says so", does not make the knowledge derived from both incontravariable facts. Successful bodybuilding revolves around an individuals knowledge of HIS/HER OWN body, meaning -->individual makeup, individual habits, individual capability, and individual motivation--and none of those are the same for any one person.

 

[UA_Iron]

it's called "armabolon"

not too many people know about, it was only made in germany in the 1930's - kind of toxic but how else do you think Arnold achieved such amazing bicep peaks??

 

[go2failure]

it's called "armabolon"

not too many people know about, it was only made in germany in the 1930's - kind of toxic but how else do you think Arnold achieved such amazing bicep peaks??

and that's the way you do it!

 

[Madcow2]

I don't believe in "one model/one knowledge" fits all theory or its sentiments. Just because a book or self-appointed expert "says so", does not make the knowledge derived from both incontravariable facts. Successful bodybuilding revolves around an individuals knowledge of HIS/HER OWN body, meaning -->individual makeup, individual habits, individual capability, and individual motivation--and none of those are the same for any one person.

You're missing my point - it's not one person. It's all people. There isn't any qualified person in the field who will tell you differently. We are talking long-term universal consensus at every level in the field from high school teacher through leading researchers. Granted, that doesn't mean they are right (thinking back to the ether theory in space rather than a vacume) but that's some hard science to reject on the basis of a single individual's experience and faith that it adequately contradicts what is very established and thorough science.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Oh lord, more people trying to say that it's possible to shape a muscle. You don't believe in the "one model/one knowledge fits all theory"? How ignorant are you, my friend? Madcow said all that need be said. At this point, you're just being stubborn. You can't shape a muscle. You're the same as everyone else, in that the rules of physiology apply to you as well. Stop trying to refute this point, 'cause you just sound like a complete jackass.

 

[go2failure]

You're missing my point - it's not one person. It's all people. There isn't any qualified person in the field who will tell you differently. We are talking long-term universal consensus at every level in the field from high school teacher through leading researchers. Granted, that doesn't mean they are right (thinking back to the ether theory in space rather than a vacume) but that's some hard science to reject on the basis of a single individual's experience and faith that it adequately contradicts what is very established or thorough science.

I agree that there is evidence and "proof documented as fact" out there, but i do not agree entirely with "science" because of my own experiences in training.

What I have seen and have done that works, I still do. Are my examples best for all? No.

 

[go2failure]

Oh lord, more people trying to say that it's possible to shape a muscle. You don't believe in the "one model/one knowledge fits all theory"? How ignorant are you, my friend? Madcow said all that need be said. At this point, you're just being stubborn. You can't shape a muscle. You're the same as everyone else, in that the rules of physiology apply to you as well. Stop trying to refute this point, 'cause you just sound like a complete jackass.

As mentzer said, "With one who claims to be a expert in all things training, walk away, that person is a fool"....

 

[UA_Iron]

oh yeah,

hit your biceps with some synthol - I have no experience with synthol but that will add some size to them.

Like everyone else on this thread has stated, muscle shape is genetic. there's really nothing more to it, if there was a training method to change it then everyone would have biceps like arnold.