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Best Multivitamin while on gear

bro to be completely honest...I think all multi's are ok. We all have to take them...i think if you can find one that has a good absorbtion rate and is not too expensive then you got yourself a winner
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
bro to be completely honest...I think all multi's are ok. We all have to take them...i think if you can find one that has a good absorbtion rate and is not too expensive then you got yourself a winner
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stay away from synthetic cheap types
 
misticat said:
Animal Pak is the best
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Animal Pak has less A, FAR less B12, less of many vits and mins than DX7. Just compare.

Plus Animal Pak has..


No lutein.

No lypocene.

No MSM.

No CoQ10.

No Beta Glucan.

No Ginko Biloba.

No Inositol.

No Biofavonoids.

No Methionine.

No Ginsing.

No TMG.

It does have some worthless window dressing ingredients like Ox bile and sasparilla and maltodextrin. (sugar)

22 servings for $18 compared to $27 for 30 servings of DX7 so it's a little cheaper. But not better. And as mentioned, you can take half the dosage of DX7 and still get those ingredients that you would not get in AP or any other multi. That would make it $14 for months supply -- less than Animal Pak.
 
digit0x said:
I like NOW but I haven't tried their multi yet. How does it compare to animals pax mac?
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Never tried AP so I can't compare.
I like to buy all my vitas individually so I can choose exactly what I want and don't want to take.
 
Gotta agree with gjohnson5 on that pick.

I started taking it about 3 weeks ago off a recommendation from some ratty looking old chick and I think it's the best multi I have ever used and I've used most of the top brands before.
 
gjohnson5 said:
Alive Whole food Energizer is the best multivitamin out there
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I don't see it bro. Once again, facts are facts, right there in black and white.

Alive is missing a lot of the vital ingredients that can help bodybuilders. It does contain miniscule dosages of ground vegitables (comparable to a bite of brocolli) and I know that appeals to the Orpah crowd, but DX7 is flat out more potent and complete.

If you think a few mcgs of calliflower is more important than lycopene, then say so. But to say something is" the best" when the evidence is to the contrary makes no sense to me.
 
What is the brand you speak of and what are these "vital" ingredients that Alive is missing? Alive has more ingredients then anything out there. The reason why it has many ingredients from vegetables is because it is a whole food supplement

Nelson Montana said:
I don't see it bro. Once again, facts are facts, right there in black and white.

Alive is missing a lot of the vital ingredients that can help bodybuilders. It does contain miniscule dosages of ground vegitables (comparable to a bite of brocolli) and I know that appeals to the Orpah crowd, but DX7 is flat out more potent and complete.

If you think a few mcgs of calliflower is more important than lycopene, then say so. But to say something is" the best" when the evidence is to the contrary makes no sense to me.
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Animal Pak has a reputation to live up to, so you know what your getting is good quality. I'd stick with it, it's a good choice. There are unnecesary extras in almost any multivitamin you'll buy, they use the extras in a sense to try and pursuade you that there product is better by saying what the other doesn't have, but these extras are pointless, any multi will do it, just make sure that it has enough of the key ingredients and it's manufactured at top quality, which we know Animal Pak is.

krbn*
 
krbn08 said:
Animal Pak has a reputation to live up to, so you know what your getting is good quality. I'd stick with it, it's a good choice. There are unnecesary extras in almost any multivitamin you'll buy, they use the extras in a sense to try and pursuade you that there product is better by saying what the other doesn't have, but these extras are pointless, any multi will do it, just make sure that it has enough of the key ingredients and it's manufactured at top quality, which we know Animal Pak is.

krbn*
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So you disregard stats and go with reputation? Interesting. And ironic, since Universal had a pretty bad rep in the 90's. They've turned it around but that wouldn't stop me from using something better.
 
Clintro said:
K fellas lets not turn this into a flaming board everyone has stated their opinions how about some new ones
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true true..every one made there case and all good imo lets not beat a dead cow.
 
Why do I feel like the batter who just got a sucker fast ball thrown at his head and was then repremanded.
 
nisser512 said:
Protein factory is overpriced trash. How do you like those facts? Go away and sell your crap somewhere else.
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A-hole.












Sorry, had to say it.



.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Why do I feel like the batter who just got a sucker fast ball thrown at his head and was then repremanded.
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not you bro.lol every one.people that throw out crap like that are no one to lesion to.people that have a brain can see his post had no content other then a dumb ass remark hoping to get a rise from some one or a small following of pee brains.


its best left alone and let the pee brains pile on it and make them selfs look like fools.
 
is DX7 your product? Nelson, your like an advertisement and it's getting annoying. i need some fucken spam protection, shit. i didn't even mention your product when i proposed Animal Pak. it's not like i attacked you or anything. Leave me alone and let me talk. there is alot of other people on here pushing for Animal Pak, so shit . . just put the info out there and let the person decide on what they want. Don't quote me and shit like that. i thought you already replied to the thread? stop replying to me.

You say i disregard stats? stats aren't seen in the product, it's seen in the results.

krbn*
 
krbn08 said:
is DX7 your product? Nelson, your like an advertisement and it's getting annoying. i need some fucken spam protection, shit. i didn't even mention your product when i proposed Animal Pak. it's not like i attacked you or anything. Leave me alone and let me talk. there is alot of other people on here pushing for Animal Pak, so shit . . just put the info out there and let the person decide on what they want. Don't quote me and shit like that. i thought you already replied to the thread? stop replying to me.

You say i disregard stats? stats aren't seen in the product, it's seen in the results.

krbn*
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get off the dame board if you dont like advertising.people should realize advertising was here before you cam and it will be here long after you.

you disrupt the board and do nothing for the members when you cry like this.

this crap is getting old not the ads.your talking to a board sponsor some one that pays for you to get every thing you get from this site.have some dame respect for that for god sake.I am not saying bow before him but if he presents some thing then refute it in the same respectable way that he presented it.dont like it pack your shit and get off the boards.



now for god sake people stop the bullshit its a wast of time.
 
krbn08 said:
needto, i can respect that. good point.
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thank you bro.nothing against you at all man I have seen your post and your nothing but a good bro all the time.love having you here on the site and its good to see knew guys jumping in and making post like you do..shows you might be here a wile and I like people that stick around rather then the fly by nights.
 
needtogetaas said:
thank you bro.nothing against you at all man I have seen your post and your nothing but a good bro all the time.love having you here on the site and its good to see knew guys jumping in and making post like you do..shows you might be here a wile and I like people that stick around rather then the fly by nights.
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This is probably the hardest site to be nice on with all of the opinions and roid rage, shit lol.
 
krbn08 said:
This is probably the hardest site to be nice on with all of the opinions and roid rage, shit lol.
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we got one huge melting pot here thats for shore.it has its downs and deff has its perks.
 
Anything overdosed is going to be urinated by your body. Not to mention you should be getting the majority of your essential vitamins and minerals from the good food that you eat. Any multi for an active individual would be ideal so I would just get something reasonably priced, because all that crap like GNC mega men or animal pak is a rip-off.
 
I like AST's Multivitamin. I also like Twinlab's Dualtabs.

I once read a test article on Multi's, and the top rated brand for label consistency, and potency was Member's Mark brand that is sold at Sam's Club. Makes sense, because they have a lot to lose if something isn't right.
 
marshallmadman said:
I like AST's Multivitamin. I also like Twinlab's Dualtabs.

I once read a test article on Multi's, and the top rated brand for label consistency, and potency was Member's Mark brand that is sold at Sam's Club. Makes sense, because they have a lot to lose if something isn't right.
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Right now safeway select brand men's multivit/multimineral. Body's taking it pretty well.
 
noclue9415 said:
Pharmanex, definitely not the cheapest but i swear on that stuff. Its pretty potent though so i take my stuff eod
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Not bad. Still not up there with DX7 and I think the "nano disspertion" angle is a bit of a gimmick but at least the ingredients are all valid (unlike Animal Pak ).
 
gjohnson5 said:
What is the brand you speak of and what are these "vital" ingredients that Alive is missing? Alive has more ingredients then anything out there. The reason why it has many ingredients from vegetables is because it is a whole food supplement
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Here you go -- I'm sometimes accused of overpromoting yet a lot of people don't even know of the products.

And by the way, if this were a matter of just promoting, I wouldn't like it as much as anybody. But if we're discussing difference making comparisons, well then, that's what the board is all about IMO.

Okay, the brand is this: http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=427&cat=0&page=1 And some of the vital ingredients it contains that aren't in Alive are...

MSM

TMG

Beta Glucan

CoQ10

Methionine

Vanadyl sulfate

Inosine

Inositol

Lycopene

All stuff bodybuilders should be taking anyway. Get it in one serving.

As for the veggies and greens you're better off eating them. You'll never get enough whole food in a pill.

Also, Alive has a lot of iron which can lead to liver damsge and heart failure in men. NEVER use a multi with 100% of the RDA of iron.
 
needtogetaas said:
lets not beat a dead cow.
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lmao...cow?

on what farm did you hear that one?

bwbwbwbbwbwbbwwbwwwbwbbwwbwbwbwbwbwbwbwbbwbwbw......wilbur

ps

its


horse

ps

dont get down with the pushers here
 
I think a multi is really there just to fill in the blanks, any multi is fine, just make sure that you add a bunch of fish oil and maybe some grean tea. Go with the cheap shit.....I do like greens plus though.
 
Comparing different products, seems like DX7 is the best out there. It has "everything you need" plus more and at the right doses for heavy duty. PF products are good quality. It is expensive, yeah, but I'm sure it worth the price. I'm not using it, a little bit expensive for me right now, but I'd love to have those in my daily stack.

Animal pak, Mega men are also good. Right now I'm using "pro complex" from costco. LOL. If I get some extra bucks somehow I'll try something else.
 
I think diet is the key. I eat 3 to 4 salads a day including different vegies and fruits and I have felt great since I changed my diet. However I started including r-ala and green tea as a supplement (no names-I don't want to promote) and I swaer I feel much better and I don't get colds/sick anymore.
 
fatbg said:
I think diet is the key. I eat 3 to 4 salads a day including different vegies and fruits and I have felt great since I changed my diet. However I started including r-alpha lipoic acid and green tea as a supplement (no names-I don't want to promote) and I swaer I feel much better and I don't get colds/sick anymore.
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That's true. I think you will never get the amount of vitamins and minerals that comes in one pill. To get them we would have to eat pounds and pounds of fruits and veggies every day. But still, there is something different with them that is impossible to replace with pills. I recently have added a lot of fruits in my daily diet and feel great! Cholesterol is going down, blood pressure is more than excellent, I dump a load every day, I burn fat easily, my cum volume as increased....the wonders of mother nature.
 
You are right DJ, we need to focus as much on fruits and vegies as we do on protein. Our health is only going to benefit from it. As far as vitamins go.. well I think it should be just it-a supplement.
 
Clintro said:
What does everyone take?
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The truth about a multivitamin is that there is no one best multivitamin.

Some producers want to put every known vitamin and mineral in a single pill. That sounds good, but synergistically it's a poor approach. From a volume standpoint, the more individual items that get added, by necessity, other items need to be reduced in quantity simply to leave space. That's why you may need to take a handful of double-00 pills each day of some formulas just to get all the minimums.

The same science isn't known to every formulary.
Look how many vitamin and mineral supplements contain Vit E and Iron together, yet those two should be separated by many hours for either to be effective.

One of the cheapest and accepted forms of Vit C is ascorbic acid. For a while you would rarely see this in newer formulas, because it was said to be carcinogenic and poorly assimilated. Like most items in business that hang around, the cheap ascorbic acid is widely used.

Look at the bottle to see if your Vit E is just the alpha or if it's the primary three tocopherols. There are more Vit E factors, but the top 3 tocopherols are the most beneficial, but often only one is added. That's all it takes to state 'Has Vit E' on the bottle.

Also, not everyone accepts the FDA minimums as even near what the absolute minimum of nutrients the body requires.

Bioavailability is another tough one to know.
In the 70's a study of vitamins from production to store shelves didn't last long in the public eye. It stated that most bottled vitamin supplements didn't remain fresh enough to have even 5% activity on the store shelves even though those same items were tested at the manufacturing plant to be no less than 80% active.

Study a little about vitamins and you'll find there is as much hype in nutritional formulas and marketing as there is in bodybuilding mag ads like Hyrdroxycut. It's no surprise that some manufacturers would hype the market to offer products that do us little good in exchange for money.

When selecting the best for yourself consider this:
1. Have a good, consistent diet of as many fresh and raw fruits and vegetables as possible. You can't beat natural products over pills and natural products still have nutritional elements 'modern' science has yet to discover.
2. Buy a few bottles of supplements that you learn to trust. Get a separate vitamin supplement and a separate mineral supplement. Learn when to take them.
3. Add in separate bottles of specific items for you such as the Vit B complex. You can control single item quality a lot better than multi-vitamin quality that contain 50 items.

Mike
 
I probably don't put as much thought into it as I should. I pretty much view vitamins the same way I do protein-powder. Whatever vitamin + mineral is cheapest is best for me. If it has less of something I need, I take two.
 
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