Best alternative to ALCOHOL when 'ON'???

[solidspine]

GHB for sure. I have GHB prescribed to me (legally). It's probably the best and safest substance ("drug") on earth. If I had a choice I would prefer GBL.


I use to use G on a regular basis instead of anything else. It is very easy to OD on G, 6 years ago G was legal here in California, now posession is a felony.

 

[carapace2]

i smoke just a little bit of weed before i go out. Not too so much that people can really tell. Also, i LOVE smoking before a workout. But i have to do it on the way to the gym....or else i end up fucking around too long at the house.

 

[2BIG4URMOM]

I may be wrong here, but my friend made "G"(the date rape drug), and GHB was only a component of his contoction.

I think peeps may be getting these two things confused with each other.

 

[ohashi]

"G" is GHB. Or at least it used to be. Nowadays, the "kids" are calling GBL "G", and actual GHB is now designated as "salt".

Fucking dumbass kids and their baby-boomer parents.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

some good posts following quoting of mine, just quickly:

yes xanax/val or other benzos can be used (esp flunitrazepam, aka rohypnol, aka hypnodorm) but they are becoming more controlled. at least here.

terminator, youre a legend for beating the shit out of those drink spiking lowlives. its one of the few things that will set me off and make me hurt someone very very very fucking badly

the main drama from ghb is when taking it with alcohol...which when you think about drink spiking, compounds the problem. about 8 weeks ago there was a guy selling ghb as single tabs (so there must have been fuck all of the drug there...how big could these caps have been?) and the emergency room at a hospital i studied next to ages ago saw 8 collapsed and unresponsive patients. the drama that then happens is that the clinicians give the wrong treatment (thinking the patient is on something else) and may accidentally kill them

anyway, im not a fan of the drug, but i suppose im biased because of the people that lectured me on it, and all the bad, bad things i have seen people using it go through

 

[2BIG4URMOM]

"G" is GHB. Or at least it used to be. Nowadays, the "kids" are calling GBL "G", and actual GHB is now designated as "salt".

Fucking dumbass kids and their baby-boomer parents.

Yea, the kids found out because of all the media coverage and mistook GHB, solely for "G," but they aren't the same.

My bud was making "G" about 10 years ago(before all the hype), and if I remember correctly "GHB" is mixed with a chemical in liquid drano(or some other household chem.).

I do know for sure that "GHB" was not used by itself, but those who only know from the media believes that "GHB" is the only culprit used.

 

[deltreefitness]

i LOVE smoking before a workout. But i have to do it on the way to the gym....or else i end up fucking around too long at the house.

LOL @ that. That cracks me up.

I get really self-concious and it would freak me out to smoke before going to a gym.

 

[deltreefitness]

the main drama from ghb is when taking it with alcohol...which when you think about drink spiking, compounds the problem. about 8 weeks ago there was a guy selling ghb as single tabs (so there must have been fuck all of the drug there...how big could these caps have been?) and the emergency room at a hospital i studied next to ages ago saw 8 collapsed and unresponsive patients. the drama that then happens is that the clinicians give the wrong treatment (thinking the patient is on something else) and may accidentally kill them

You brought up a good point. When an over-dose does occur (which is absolutely non-toxic, BTW) some people can fall into an unarousable deep sleep. This causes some people, including emergency rooms to freak out. Especially if they do not know the cause. The rep who I met with told me that doctors and emergency personal are being trained to know if they know the patient was just using GHB to make sure not to give them anything and let them sleep it off.

Pill form of GHB? That must be one hell of a horse pill. A typical relaxing dose for me is 2.7 grams (GHB NOT GBL or bd1,4). For sleep I take 4-4.5 grams. Orphan Medical is working on a time-released pill form. That should be interesting. Hope it works out.

 

[yomama]

i was going to be quiet on this thread but this post changed my mind

im a pharmacist in case i havnt said that lately (lol) and GHB does not benefit the companies and the dealers. GHB is an old, cheap drug and the companies make very little money off it, as do pharmacists. dealers might make some money on it, but dealers always will. still, even at black market prices, its a cheap drug, relatively.

however, the prohibition/control of this drug benefits a large group of eople, and those people are those eople who are the targets of RAPISTS. men and women alike. GHB is a great drug to rape someone with, and im glad its under control. despite being an interesting drug for BBing purposes, i think that this aspect is enough to make me wish it was unmade.

btw, any wannabe rapists out there, id jsut like you to know that there are people out there like me who will happily poison you with something that will FUCK YOU for life, if we catch you doing anything sleazy like spiking a drink. just so you know.

cheers

Shit, I know you're coming my way first.

 

[ocisbomb]

I am very experienced with GHB, bodybuilding, and GHB and bodybuilding. I have also used (almost) every drug there is, with the exception of a few rare hallucinogens, and a few of the drugs mentioned in PIHKAL. GHB gets you high, yes. It has no calories, yes. It makes you sleep great and recover like a madman, yes. If you are one of those people who has to get high on something (be it alcohol, pain meds, weed, whatever) you may not be the best candidate for AAS use because of the risk that you PROBABLY have some sort of underlying depression, anxiety issues, or something like that.

My GF and I used to take G in college and found it to be an enormous aphrodesiac, and in general a great alternative to alcohol.

SO, to answer the question of the original poster, if you NEED to get high, and you're ON, GHB is going to probably give you the gratification you're looking for without the negative effects on your body, however, you might have deeper issues, and it wouldn't hurt to discuss this with a professional. If you really have your shit under control mentally and are sure you don't have an addictive personality, I've found narcotic pain meds to be pretty nice also.

BTW, I have a LOT of GBL leftover from college and bottles of hydro/oxy and all that shit, not that I'm inferring anything... To sell that stuff is a violation of federal law.