Best alternative to ALCOHOL when 'ON'???

[mr.cuts]

wow, this discussion still rolling and we're merely discussing ethanol containing beverages

Best alternative is obviously to abstain, but if you insist:
1) Heroin - it's only 1/10 as toxic or dangerous as alcohol or as people are led to believe it is; relatively cheap, too, esp if you inject cheaper than alcohol at the bar stand. Takes pain away, doesn't let you go to sleep either
2) Other opiates - very effective (remember opioid receptor agonism=happiness, DA-agonism=compulsiveness)
3) Benzo's - GABA is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, but this stuff makes you lose your inhibitions
4) Non-benzo GABAergics (ex: neurontin) - focus/stimulation through relaxation (ie anxiolysis) and dulling effects (anaesthetic properties)
5) OTC GABAergics - too many to name: valerian, kava kava, phenibut - needs to be megadosed to produce desired effects - heroin/benzo's are cheaper by far

All of the above are best used when combined with other 'party aids' - ie 'caine, shards, E=xTc, etc to facilitate a comedown
Seriously, alcohol is much much more toxic than most of the stuff you can consume unless you're drinking battery acid!

jesus, you are one twisted individual. reality must really suck for you, since it seems you have done tons of research on how to avoid it.

 

[juve]

jesus, you are one twisted individual.

Yes, I'm certified.

reality must really suck for you, since it seems you have done tons of research on how to avoid it.

I love this - absolutely brilliant. But let's see: reality is a mere cognitive construct - a reflection on experiences ranging from basic reflexes to complex integration of universal truths and axioms that underline worldly design (waaaaaaaaaaay complex!) and form immense schemas of whatever it is we perceive is prenecissated for our interpretation-formation. Reality is also an 'obstruct' - some, therefore, seek to escape for reasons ranging from emotional chagrin to sanctimonious and judgmental idnviduums ( ). But the fact remains: whether I am railing coke, you're sipping on liquor or someone is creating an artistic masterpiece does not make reality an more real than imagined: milk does not become wine, lead does not turn into gold and 1+1=2 is still a Universal truth. Of course, in folly of the mood you can contest all of the above examples, but ONLY in folly.

 

[v shape]

good point...

 

[FknKnuckleHd]

Yes, I'm certified.


I love this - absolutely brilliant. But let's see: reality is a mere cognitive construct - a reflection on experiences ranging from basic reflexes to complex integration of universal truths and axioms that underline worldly design (waaaaaaaaaaay complex!) and form immense schemas of whatever it is we perceive is prenecissated for our interpretation-formation. Reality is also an 'obstruct' - some, therefore, seek to escape for reasons ranging from emotional chagrin to sanctimonious and judgmental idnviduums ( ). But the fact remains: whether I am railing coke, you're sipping on liquor or someone is creating an artistic masterpiece does not make reality an more real than imagined: milk does not become wine, lead does not turn into gold and 1+1=2 is still a Universal truth. Of course, in folly of the mood you can contest all of the above examples, but ONLY in folly.

Yeh...what he said cause I was just going to say it

 

[jonny jacked]

if you cant go without getting fucked up for 8 - 10 weeks, then you shouldnt be taking gear. i cant even imagine getting drunk when on a cycle. hell, i dont even go out when im on, eat, sleep and train

alltraps, c'mon. you're only young once. "if you cant go without getting fucked up for 8-10 weeks you shouldn't be doing gear?" I bet you're a real hoot to be around.

 

[jonny jacked]

First of all, when people refer to the pharmaceutical industry as being the driving force behind GHB's getting banned, it's because the pharm companies can then sell shit like Ambien and Xanax. GHB is fuckton more effective and beneficial, and much, much less expensive. Yes, people would use GHB over the more expensive crap, and yes, pharm companies would lose money because, like you said, it's a cheap drug.

Second, I find the use of GHB for date-rape interesting. GHB by itself is really hard to knock someone out with. I have taken up to 17 grams, and the main side effect was dizziness - not blacking out or going into a coma (give me a break). Quite a few people (okay, more like 9-12 of my friends) have taken shitloads as well without getting knocked out (including my 104-pound girlfried, who has taken 10 grams the night before finals, and woken up seven hours later, bright as ray of sunshine). Sure, maybe mixing it with alcohol would produce a knock-out effect (never tried, never had an interest in trying), but that is true of a lot of things, and two bars of Xanax with some beer would produce a much more powerful, pronounced, and dangerous effect.

On a final note, I am surprised at the people who take the drug without knowing the dose they are using. "A cap" is not a freaking dose, people!

dude, if you took 17 grams and did not get knocked out - your shit is watered down. don't be pissed that you are just lower on the food chain than most and continually waste daddy's money on watered down shitty G. for the rest of us who get top quality shit - we know that it is extremely easy to pass out from to much G - mostly from experience. I cannot recount the number of times i have "G'd out" - back in my party days, sometimes on as little as 5 grams.
your final comment just goes to show how stupid you really are.
quote "
On a final note, I am surprised at the people who take the drug without knowing the dose they are using. "A cap" is not a freaking dose, people!"

tell me, how do you know how strong the stuff is you consume? even if you made it yourself (which i'm sure you are going to tell me...) you still cannot properly gauge the strengh when your cooking it up in your tub or on the stove. 17 grams of your stuff could be (and sounds like) 2-3b grams of the actual drug and 14-15 grams of water. so to steal a few words from you:
17 grams is not always 17 grams people!

 

[deltreefitness]

I have 180ml bottles. 1 syringe is 9ml which = 4.5 grams. The syringe is marked in .5 gram/ml incriments. That is GHB. Not GBL, BD 1,4, or any other precursor. They are dosed differently. It's very rare when used illicitly that measurements are that accurate and consistent. That's a big problem with many drugs obtained on the black market.

 

[ohashi]

dude, if you took 17 grams and did not get knocked out - your shit is watered down.

I'm glad you're omnipotent.

don't be pissed that you are just lower on the food chain than most and continually waste daddy's money on watered down shitty G. for the rest of us who get top quality shit - we know that it is extremely easy to pass out from to much G - mostly from experience. I cannot recount the number of times i have "G'd out" - back in my party days, sometimes on as little as 5 grams.

Aww, so you have poor tolerance and immediately assume yourself to be the end-all resource of GHB trivia? Guess what, fuckshit - getting your shit from a "bro" or from Pelchat is not "top quality shit" - it's a piece of crap that is probably laced with shitty "sleep aids." My GHB stock was from Clintec Nutrition, but you wouldn't know what that is, now, would you, you low-life dipfag? And that's how I knew the purity and the dosage.

your final comment just goes to show how stupid you really are.
so to steal a few words from you:
17 grams is not always 17 grams people!

Except for the fact that my GHB was pharmaceutical grade, while you were blowing strangers to get some of your "top quality shit" in an unmarked baggie.

 

[Lowest]

Bwahahaha, Ohashi, that made my day

 

[sportjuicer]

if you cant go without getting fucked up for 8 - 10 weeks, then you shouldnt be taking gear. i cant even imagine getting drunk when on a cycle. hell, i dont even go out when im on, eat, sleep and train

I agree!! but I also have to add my job in there also....bummer!