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Best alternative to ALCOHOL when 'ON'???

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manny78 said:
1/4 is more than enough. Hangover usually comes with bad quality.

hangover comes from railing all night and having your dopamine reward center self destruct the next day. Coke is a funny drug... I hate doing it... but I always come back for more.
 
manny78 said:
Coke would be another option. That stuff gives me such a high with no hangover.


Coke would be THE LAST thing I would recommend for ANYBODY :o...All it ever did for me was keep me in bed half of the next day and make me so fucked up in the head I wanted to die...Fuck coke :worried:
 
I love bodybuilding. I love the effects ssteroids have on my body. Unfortunately I also love to party including drinking alcohol. While on a cycle I try to stay away from too much partying, but unfortunately eventually I go stir crazy. The best I can do is keep it to a minimum.

I too would love something to go out on and have a great time that would be less harsh than drinking. Unfortunately GHB and all the others suggested are not very easy to come by. I do get xanax prescribed for my anxiety, but it's only enough for me to keep on hand when I can't sleep or my anxiety acts up. Not enough to use recreationally.
 
What do you guys think about narcotic pain meds? Oxycodone/percocet, or hydro/vicodin? I LOVE the high they give me and they're REALLY easy to get.
 
ocisbomb said:
What do you guys think about narcotic pain meds? Oxycodone/percocet, or hydro/vicodin? I LOVE the high they give me and they're REALLY easy to get.


Nah, just do speedballs three or four nights a week.
 
manny78 said:
1/4 is more than enough. Hangover usually comes with bad quality.


Jesus, this guy is a mod on this site and he is recommending using cocaine!
There are studies that indicate that using cocaine while on AAS greatly increased the toxicity to the cardiovascular system.

I think the administrator/owner of this site should re-evalutate this guys position as a mod on this site. His advice is totally reckless.
 
mr.cuts said:
Jesus, this guy is a mod on this site and he is recommending using cocaine!
There are studies that indicate that using cocaine while on AAS greatly increased the toxicity to the cardiovascular system.

I think the administrator/owner of this site should re-evalutate this guys position as a mod on this site. His advice is totally reckless.

He didn't tell anyone to take any drugs. He's only stating his experience. If anyone isn't smart enough to do their own reseach they that is their own reckless behavior.
 
DeltreeFitness said:
He didn't tell anyone to take any drugs. He's only stating his experience. If anyone isn't smart enough to do their own reseach they that is their own reckless behavior.


he is stating it in a way that makes cocaine use appear harmless. The fact that he is a mod on this site could make one believe that he is very knowledgeable, thus lending credence to his statement concering cocaine.
 
mr.cuts said:
he is stating it in a way that makes cocaine use appear harmless. The fact that he is a mod on this site could make one believe that he is very knowledgeable, thus lending credence to his statement concering cocaine.

Truth is many illegal drugs are not as harmful as some would want you to think. AAS is a perfect example. The government is hardly trying to protect you with laws against them. There are many everyday substances that can be much more harmful. This is especially true with alcohol.
 
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wow, this discussion still rolling and we're merely discussing ethanol containing beverages :eyes:

Best alternative is obviously to abstain, but if you insist:
1) Heroin - it's only 1/10 as toxic or dangerous as alcohol or as people are led to believe it is; relatively cheap, too, esp if you inject cheaper than alcohol at the bar stand. Takes pain away, doesn't let you go to sleep either
2) Other opiates - very effective (remember opioid receptor agonism=happiness, DA-agonism=compulsiveness)
3) Benzo's - GABA is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, but this stuff makes you lose your inhibitions
4) Non-benzo GABAergics (ex: neurontin) - focus/stimulation through relaxation (ie anxiolysis) and dulling effects (anaesthetic properties)
5) OTC GABAergics - too many to name: valerian, kava kava, phenibut - needs to be megadosed to produce desired effects - heroin/benzo's are cheaper by far :o

All of the above are best used when combined with other 'party aids' - ie 'caine, shards, E=xTc, etc to facilitate a comedown :o
Seriously, alcohol is much much more toxic than most of the stuff you can consume unless you're drinking battery acid!
 
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