Bench Press

[kethnaab]

i don't like the equipment for the same reason I don't want the Major Leagues to allow aluminum baseball bats.

it takes the fun away from comparing the greats. and since I'll never be one of "the greats", I can only talk about 'em.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

its really fucking sad that this thread has gone to 4 pages in the PL forum when there are so many other better things to talk about



my bench sucks so im gonna buy a better shirt so that i bench 650- i dont think im even gonna train i thin ill just sit on the couch until my next meet and then put it on

 

[Quadsweeps Sister]

its really fucking sad that this thread has gone to 4 pages in the PL forum when there are so many other better things to talk about



my bench sucks so im gonna buy a better shirt so that i bench 650- i dont think im even gonna train i thin ill just sit on the couch until my next meet and then put it on

........[sigh]

 

[wnt2bBeast]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Quadsweep's Sister again.

 

[Chambewy20]

As everyone figured days or weeks ago, defending equipment against someone who has NEVER worn equipment of any sort is useless.

All arguments based only on speculation shows the true degree of ignorance in some people.

I firmly beleive if you've never tried it or even competed at all, how can you criticize or attack a sport or "demonstration."

I mean really who's the meathead here?

 

[Tiervexx]

As everyone figured days or weeks ago, defending equipment against someone who has NEVER worn equipment of any sort is useless.

All arguments based only on speculation shows the true degree of ignorance in some people.

I firmly beleive if you've never tried it or even competed at all, how can you criticize or attack a sport or "demonstration."

I mean really who's the meathead here?

you say I can't attack suits not having worn one? By that logic we are in no position to judge a murder till after becoming one ourselves. You guys really need to take a course in reasoning or something because this seriously is not logic at all.

And if you will address this:

Likewise, I understand how many already extremely strong lifters could fall in love with the idea of pressing 700 lbs, even when they can do 600 or so without a shirt. I understand that using shirts is a skill in itself as is using leg drive within legal limits and various other techniques that serious lifters use to move heavier weights, but it is a natural absolute that if you can not lift X amount of weight without item A then you can not truly lift X amount of weight regardless of how trivial item A seems to be.

One common response to criticisms of equipped lifting is that the same lifters who do +700 lbs with shirts are still enormously strong without them, and maybe could do 600 or more raw, but the obvious rely to this is that if someone can do 612 or what ever clean they should accept that, that is the real number.

With something other than a personal attack and/or blatant logical falsity I will gladly shut up.

 

[Powerlifting57]

yea i beleive mendys 715 is more impressive than rychleks 1005 he is fat ass hell and uses a shirt to get 1005 granted that is alot of weight and i do have respect for that but thats not natural strength.

 

[Tiervexx]

yea i beleive mendys 715 is more impressive than rychleks 1005 he is fat ass hell and uses a shirt to get 1005 granted that is alot of weight and i do have respect for that but thats not natural strength.

thank you.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

yea i beleive mendys 715 is more impressive than rychleks 1005 he is fat ass hell and uses a shirt to get 1005 granted that is alot of weight and i do have respect for that but thats not natural strength.

im not agreeing or disagreeing with you..
but why does Gene bench more shirted than Mendy? both have access to the same equipment..how can you say one man is stronger than the other..if you had tme both do a raw bench then it would be fair

you non shirted benchers just dont understand whats involved..and if you put a shirt on a few times that doesnt make you a shirted bencher either

 

[Mr. dB]

im not agreeing or disagreeing with you..
but why does Gene bench more shirted than Mendy? both have access to the same equipment..how can you say one man is stronger than the other..if you had tme both do a raw bench then it would be fair

you non shirted benchers just dont understand whats involved..and if you put a shirt on a few times that doesnt make you a shirted bencher either

I guess these anti-shirt guys just want to see lots of big guys blow out their shoulders. Benching appears to have reached a sort of limit to what the human frame can accomplish, beyond which injury is almost certain. For shirtless bench, that limit seems to be somewhere in the 700s, no?