being GAY.

[Warik]

But I do regret calling you a fucking idiot, because I'm sure it gave you just the superiority jollies you were looking for.

It sure did. Though I'm not proud of the fact that I haven't called anyone a "fucking idiot," because, of course (borrowing from my "children's time out" posts) "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CALL PEOPLE 'FUCKING IDIOTS!!!!'"

You're the one who brought feelings into this with your insulting posts.

Haven't you learned from what I said about suicide? Nobody can "make" someone commit suicide, just as nobody can "make" someone feel insulted. I was simply stating fact. Am I insulted when people say that males ages 18-24 are among the highest at risk for automobile accidents? NO! CAUSE IT'S FACT! Jeez.

This was a civil thread until you joined it.

Seeing as how I haven't intended to insult anyone (note that I don't say "yet," because I don't plan to either), I believe the thread is still civil. It hasn't turned into a flame war. I'm hoping you, and others, can calm down and discuss the issues at hand, and retort with fact as opposed to "you're a fucking idiot with no logic skills and no empathy! diediedie!" Please, I know you're older than that.

-Warik

 

[Stumpy (The Fucking dumbass Piece of Shit!)]

Most, if not all, stereotypes are based on truths!

And? The problem with stereotypes lies not in the fact that they're partly based on truths. No, that's not even the point - it is the very nature of stereotypes that's problematic. They're insidious because the internalization of these logical reductions through the process of acculturation usually goes unnoticed - have you not heard of the expression "imbibing hatred with their mother's milk"? Once ingrained, it is very hard for some people to even accept how their view of the world has been tainted by these grossly oversimplifying formulas.

Unfortunately, many prefer to live in a deep state of denial rather than confront and dispose of these almost indelible, mental "lenses" that reduce reality to a badly written play, in which all the characters are flat, the action is purposeless, and the ending is always nauseatingly predictable. That must get boring after awhile.

 

[Warik]

Warik if you saw me or others like me you would not even give a second look as you would not know i was gay.

I don't disagree with that AT ALL. I'm not saying that ALL gays wear tight hot pink shirts, have limp wrists, and talk with lisps. I'm saying that people who DO wear tight pink shirts AND have limp wrists AND talk with lisps are TYPICALLY gay.

The stereotype, as far as I know, is not "gays do this" - it's "people who do this are gay."

You seem to have a problem with perception of the way people act and how they dress in the gay culture but maybe you need to see more of the world to see your perception MAY be incorect.

Not necessarily. It has nothing to do SPECIFICALLY with the gay culture. It has to do with people who do certain things - exhibiting the above qualities is an example of such things.

Do I disapprove and disagree with the exhibition of the above, among other, qualities. Yes - and I won't deny it.

Do I think those who exhibit these qualities should be prohibited from doing so? No. Like I said before - people should have the right to do anything they want to do as long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others. If the right to never have to see something one dislikes existed, then everyone would have to live in seclusion.

My philosophy? "Do it. I may not like it, and I have the right not to, but I won't stop you from doing it."

I respect your opinion just don't agree.

Thanks for being civil. I, of course, respect yours as well, but I also don't agree. =)

And don't touch my shirt its Prada and I will kick your ass.

Wouldn't dream of it.

-Warik

 

[Warik]

BTW: I'm going to sleep now. Think of your best childish flames and hit me in the morning. To those of you who are actually discussing (i.e. Matt, flexed1, RyanH), I hope to see more intelligent stuff in the morning.

Night.

-Warik

 

[wyst]

It sure did.

I guess that's the difference between you and me. I'm saying what I think, because it's important to me, not for any jollies.

And I think it is important to point out that your posts are inappropriate. Just because you didn't respond to my profanity doesn't make your posts any less insulting or insensitive. Just because you remove all trace of emotion from a post does not make it reasonable, appropriate, or impressive. Post your opinions with a modicum of tact and sensitivity and people might respond to them more reasonbly and respect them a bit more. I mean, seriously, there are plenty of gay bashers on Ef, and yet not one of them has come to your defense. Don't you find that interesting?

 

[flexed1]

Warik and I don't always agree but I would be a liar if I said nelly femine guys don't bother me as they do. Don't hate them as I hate nobody just don't want others thinking we are all like that. Sorry to be so far away from the original reason for the post on this one but new replies sometimes warrant new answers. Good night.

 

[starfish]

wyst,

I have to agree with you. You can be the smartest man in the world but who is going to want to listen to you when there is such arrorgance??? The world just doesn't work that way.






Oh and those guys in pink shirts with limp hands are great too.

 

[buddy28]

Re: Re: being GAY.

I honestly don't care as long as I don't have to be subjected to witnessing any acts of homosexuality or flagrant displays of flaming gayness (i.e. tight pink shirts with limp wrists and a nasty liTHHHHHP), but I wish you'd stop crying about it. Wahhh homosexuals are stereotyped! How many times do I have to say it?

Most, if not all, stereotypes are based on truths!

-Warik

Warik, if i can intrude, sterotyping groups of people prevents recognition of an individuals real needs and struggles by reducing their character and motivations to preconcieved notions of how they *should* be, rather than how they *are*.

Like Stumpy said, its easy. Sterotyping negates the need for empathetic understanding of the individual and their problems.

 

[smallmovesal]

wyst you have pm...

sleep tight warik... don't let the gay men bite.

 

[JohnyJuice]

I don't understand why some of you people jumped on Warik. Yes, he didn't come into the conversation saying "I'm sorry for your loss, dadada", but i dont think that is what Ryan wanted out of this thread. He brought up questions which were reasonable, looking for a reasonable response (suprisingly out of character for him. I half expected him to blame white heterosexuals for every plight that homosexuals have). Warik hasn't stated anything unreasonable. Guys who talk with a lisp and have broken wrists: Never met one who wasnt gay.
Good majority of Aids cases (in 2000) involved homosexuals: Fact.
He dissaproves of gays acting in a gay manner: Fact
I don't like seeing that shit either. Face it folks, gays are out of the norm, and therefore social deviants.
Also, about the stereotyping... Warik is correct. Most stereotypes exist for a reason. Ex: The irish are drunks. Well, the Irish drink alot. Calling Italians greaseballs. Well guess what..I am Italian and i have oily skin. Etc. Get over yourselves people.

P.S. If anyone has a complex, it is you Smalltitsal. You have a serious need for attention.