been on for years ! need to come off HELP NEEDED

[1/2man1/2god]

hey guys i think its time to bite the bullet and come off to give my body a rest . i have run anything and everything the last 2 years pretty much. i am scared to do this i will admit . i am cruising on test right now to avoid crashing.

can anyone set me up on an INTENSE pct to help me restore my body and become fertile again also?

all help is greatly appreciated

 

[auslifter90]

Hcg 2500iu EOD for 8 shots
Use aromasin estrogen can get high
This many need to be repeated because leydig cell sensitivity is way down
After this use all the natural pct supps and stear clear of chemicals for months

 

[Anabolic chest]

Deffo get some clomid in there at 50mg a day for at least four weeks as well

 

[wootoom]

To be honest you sound like a troll

 

[Voijn]

I would seek professional help!
first off that cant be healthy, and i think it would be wisest to seek medical help so that they can keep your hormones at track and your health

 

[hardrock]

So have you been blasting the whole time? Or cruising and blasting? How old are you? How long you been in the game?

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[stevesmi]

we just had a similar thread up earlier.. do some homework man.

you will need several PCT's, not just 1. and it will take time.

hope the gains were worth it, your recovery will be hell

 

[UA_Iron]

Not sure how old you are... Go see a doc and get on HRT.

 

[eastcoastplayer]

not enough info to give good advice.

 

[1/2man1/2god]

im 23 ...almost 24 this coming summer. i never cruise really . i just take high doses of anything i can get my hands on. been on since high school pretty much. no troll here.

 

[Liquid 2009]

What was your purpose for going years straight ?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

What was your purpose for going years straight ?

Sheer idiocy. Especially since H.S.

 

[Nelson Montana]

There's no such thing as "intense" PCT. It only does so much. Using MORE HCG will not do more to help recovery.

It's like thinking that since taking aspirin cures a headache, if you take a bottle of aspirin you can prevent future headaches. It just doesn't work that way.

 

[1/2man1/2god]

same reason most pro bodybuilders start young... duh. you think they got that big waiting till they were 25 to start juicing? lol

 

[Sinister613]

Are you huge now then?

Sent from Canada

 

[Soulthief]

Yeah, throw a pic down or I call BS. You better be one big some beech.

 

[MattJS]

Are you a pro bodybuilder?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Yeah, throw a pic down or I call BS. You better be one big some beech.

I call poor cycleing choices and lifestyle and not being anywhere near where your idea should have gotten you. Post pics and prove us wrong.

 

[stevesmi]

1. you don't know what bodybuilders did when they were teens.. did u date them? did u live with them and watch them inject? then you don't know what they did
2. you start lifting as a teen, not using hormones. hormones used at a young age will damage you long term.
3. you went into it and stayed on with zero plan on coming off... that would be like taking a 10 foot boat out into the ocean during a hurricane with no radio, food, water and then asking your friend on the boat what you should do when the waves start hitting your boat. bad planning
4. if you started when you were in your teens and now you are 24 or whatever i would say that you are fucked.. it will be a long and painful recovery.. your LH, FSH and total T levels are gonna be lower than a female. i would not want to be in your shoes, say goodbye to all your gains
5. the only solution and its a long shot would be to run a series of PCT's and a lot of bloodwork tracking your progress.. otherwise either you are gonna have to spend a while with double digit T levels or go on HRT FOR LIFE!!! a waste and for what?
6. if you think teens stand a chance on stage vs. men in bodybuilding contests then I have a bridge to sell you. not gonna happen. and even at your age you are a kid.. 24 is still young.

face the facts you fucked up here and you were thinking short term and have no long term plans for every coming off. i want to feel sorry for people like you but i'm sorry i cannot. you have access to sites like this and still chose to do something dumb. when i was your age i knew about steroids and stayed away, and its not like we had internet back then and sites like this to get advice from. i was getting my advice for books at the library.

 

[stevesmi]

I call poor cycleing choices and lifestyle and not being anywhere near where your idea should have gotten you. Post pics and prove us wrong.

exactly and pics won't tell us anything because the guy coming off is gonna have 0 LH and probably a 25 total T level.. his gains will vanish 100X faster than he put them on.. his strength will collapse literally overnight

 

[burnthiscorpse]

exactly and pics won't tell us anything because the guy coming off is gonna have 0 LH and probably a 25 total T level.. his gains will vanish 100X faster than he put them on.. his strength will collapse literally overnight

Maybe not pics coming off but to see how far he got. I remember a post quite a while ago of someone talking about a friend. The friend was on since like 17 or 18 and had been on for like 4 years straight. But he was dedicated and the kid was a total fucking monster. Usually that doesnt happen. Either way that kid AND the OP are 99.9% fucked. TRT for life most likely.

To be honest I had a hookup at age 18. I had pretty much no base. (also before internet) My plan was to go on and stay on and never come off and be 6'0" 275 7%bf. lolololol. I would have fucking killed myself. Fortunatley things didnt work out for me getting hooked up at 18.

If you were a football player (with actual potential) using AAS at 17 to get just a touch more edge to get into a huge D1 school instead of maybe a D2 school then I could understand. Hell I wouldnt even criticize you. Much to the dismay of my peers im sure.
But obviously this was just a poor choice. You went on and stayed on while your endocrine system wasnt done finalizing itself ect....
Even if you had cycled off and recovered it would have been better. Still not good but better.

 

[Anabolic chest]

OP do the 'power pct' from uk muscle forum. There's been a lot of success stories using that protocol. Google it.

You can also find it on meso rx. Dr scally came up with it

 

[Cali72]

Think I remember this kids user name and he posted a while back with pics.
What I can remember he's big and thick.

 

[Aplopez8]

Ya it's the same guy .. He posted the exact same thing awhile ago . I'm guessing he stayed on

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Whats a little more time at this point?

Why not drop to 100-125mg wk so your Test is at normal levels. This will(should) allow your lipids, CBC, RBC ect to normalize. Get the rest of yourself healthy that way then try to come off if you want.

Why do you want to come off? Health? Realize you dodnt wanna be a BB'r? Novelty has worn off? Not being a dick just wondering.

 

[Regking06]

Stevesmi, i dont even understand why you answered to this post if its just to make the guy feel bad. He asked for help, he didnt ask anyone to tell him he fucked up man. Im pretty sure he knows already the situation he is in right now. So if you dont want to help him dont make him feel worst.

 

[wootoom]

Stevesmi, i dont even understand why you answered to this post if its just to make the guy feel bad. He asked for help, he didnt ask anyone to tell him he fucked up man. Im pretty sure he knows already the situation he is in right now. So if you dont want to help him dont make him feel worst.

Steve is the most sincere guy on the board and helps people constantly. He gives advice to about 100 people a day. I would watch who you're talking to.

 

[Regking06]

Oh i know stevesmi is just like a dictionnary in this domain, but i feel bad for the guy! I imagine myself in his situation and i would panic. I disnt mean to offense anyone.

 

[jeremyng25]

I thought pros cruised on test for years. Maybe wrong whatever lol

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[PHGHI]

The MODs on this board should try and help him with some recommended PCT plans. Ok yes He fucked up but that's why he's coming for help guys. I think he gets the message. Why send him to another forum when you guys are the best at this. That's why I read this forum 10x a day.

 

[goin on 4T]

The MODs on this board should try and help him with some recommended PCT plans. Ok yes He fucked up but that's why he's coming for help guys. I think he gets the message. Why send him to another forum when you guys are the best at this. That's why I read this forum 10x a day.

They did months ago. I remember this guy. He didn't listen then and continued to use. All he has to do is search his old thread. Hell threads like this are once a week here. He just needs to. do something for yourself other than stick a needle in your body. He needs to hit his own rock bottom before he can start to do out of his hole. And there is no ladder either. It's up to him.


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[stevesmi]

i told the guy wat to do... run multiple pcts... but i also told him the harsh reality that it will be a hellish recovery and if wat he wrote is true then its a longshot

 

[stevesmi]

also i want teens reading this who r thinking of following this guy to learn from his mistakes... if we lied to the op and said he would be fine then who learns what?